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Trigger OK now

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Well I had some time this evening so I decided to take my new gun out of the safe to fondle it and while I had it out I decided to adjust the trigger to see if the creep would go away. Well I took it down to the heavy side of 1 lb. and wouldn't you know she's as crisp as a glass rod. I'd have to say that it is probably the best trigger of all my guns I should have known that the way it came from the factory wasn't as good as it gets. They probably do that for safety or liability reasons. My hats off to the guys in the shop they do great work.

Now I have another question about my sights!

I put my gun in my cleaning vise and plumbed up the action of the gun. With the gun plumb the staff on the soule sight is plumb but the level bubble on the MVA 113 is not in the center, the left edge of the bubble lines up with the post in the aperature.

My question is :?:

Is the bubble in the front sight supposed to be level with the gun when the action is plumb? or Does the soule sight have to be plumb to the level bubble in the front sight even if it means that the gun would be canted a little? I hope you guys will enlighten me. I have a feeling as long as the soule is true to the level bubble it doesn't matter how much the gun is canted because the bore is straight and true.
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Post by LJBass »

BWoos,
Sounds like, if you center your bubble, your rear sight will lean right. I have a good friend who's a Boeing tech type who leans his staff to the left 2 1/2 degrees to compensate for bullet precession down range. This is for right hand twist barrels. 'Course somebody could be screwing with ya too. Just kidding! I am curious if your barrel is left hand twist. You might also check to see if your bubble is verticle. If your level is removable there should be a witness mark on it. On my levels it is bottom centered.
Regards, LJ
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Post by Kelley O.Roos »

All the bubble does is make sure you shoot each shot the same. The bubble keeps you from canting the rifle left one shot and right next causing the bullet to strick in a different spot from shot to shot. So don't worry, just keep the bubble level shot to shot. Old timer's used to have rear sights that were set a couple degree's off so windage was built in to account for barrel twist.

Kelley O. 8)
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Post by BWoos »

LJ
the rifling spirals clockwise as your looking from the breach to the muzzle. So I'm thinking it is a right hand twist. So if I just hold the bubble level that will cause the staff to lean a little to the right. Am I worrying too much about this? because I haven't even fired the gun yet
Brian
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Post by Kelley O.Roos »

BWoos,

I think I said that, what you just said :wink: I have noticed some people are just a little bubble off. :lol: By all means fire the rifle, isn't that why you bought it :shock: :D :P

Kelley O. 8)
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Brian,
Yep, she's right hand twist. As Kelley said, go out and shoot it and see where you have to adjust to. If you need to adjust your rear mount, there are a lot of guys on this forum who can give good advice.
Regards, LJ
PS. There is a long range gong match held the 2nd Saturday of the month in Spokane at Mica Peak. Shouldn't be too far from you. If you want the particulars, let me know.
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Post by Tasmanian Rebel »

BWoos, glad you got the trigger thing fixed. I was a little surprised initially that you were having trouble with a Shiloh trigger because they have an excellent reputation. About the level, I agree with Kelley(man that hurts!). Would like to add that with the long range potential of these rifles, canting the rifle to one side or another just a little will/could have major implications where a bullet will impact at long range. When you shoot check it out for yourself-kind of fun to do things like that. It's a constant learning process with these guns.
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Post by BWoos »

LJ

Today is the second saturday of the month! Do they have the shoots year round? Do you shoot there? I met a guy named Mike Weber aka Fighting Creek Slim and he shoots up there do you know him? Mica is about a 20 minute drive from work at the CDA Casino, I've been meaning to go up and check it out now I have more reason to.

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Brian,
They have the match scheduled monthly, but the January match was cancelled. Their next match will be the 2nd Saturday in February. I get to Spokane every couple of months on business and plan my schedule so I can shoot when I'm there. I don't believe I've met "Slim". In addition to the long range shooters, I know there is a pretty good sized cowboy action group. Is he one of them? The gong shooters meet at the Denny's at Sprague and Pines for breakfast at 7:30 and drive to the range from there. Wayne Derrick heads the group up. When you get there say hello for me. I probably won't get there before April.
Regards, LJ
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LJ

Slim is big in the cowboy action shooting but I also thought he mentioned that he did some long range stuff also. I'll have to keep the Feb. shoot in mind maybe I'll go up and watch and talk with the guys.

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Brian,
They are a really great group of guys. Try to make breakfast if you can, that way you will be able to meet most of the folks shooting that day. If I hadn't made breakfast the first time I shot there I'd never have found the range.
Regards, LJ
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If there is anyone in the Spokane area, though I'd really like it to be the Omak area, I'd love to have some sage. Really miss the smell of home.
Thanks much
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Omak

Not very much sage in North Idaho!

LJ

I looked at my calender today at work and saw that the 2nd saturday in Feb. is the 14th that is the day I'll be flying back from San Diego and won't get in till early evening. I guess I'll have to shoot for March. Maybe by then I'll have a load worked up and the gun sighted in, if I'm lucky.
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Post by LJBass »

Omak, boy, what are we going to do with you? I am starting to feel for you, son. You have obviously been cooped up way too long without access to the glorious smell of powder smoke. Black powder smoke, that is. But, in an attempt to improve your sorry lot, I will drag you back some sage the next time I am east of the mountains. Do you need a whole bush or will a sprig or two do? The kicker, to this little deal, is you will have to show up at one of our local matches to collect it. That stock must have 40 coats of oil on it by now! It's time to get that rifle to the range!
Regards, LJ
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Post by Michael Johnson »

Yeah Omak, we're calling you out! That poor rifle needs to be properly broken in. The Machias shoot is the real deal. Lots of good folks and interesting shooting irons. -Mike
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