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Hi all are Martini actions legal for or should i say exceptionable for 22 matches ? Thanks have a great day
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Re: 22 matches
22 BPCRS martinis aren’t approved
In the various 22 midrange matches that’s entirely up to the match director
In the various 22 midrange matches that’s entirely up to the match director
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Re: 22 matches
approved and recommended as period at the Desert International "TARGET" rifle event.
The only restriction is that it must be chambered for the .22 long rifle rim fire cartridge.
The only restriction is that it must be chambered for the .22 long rifle rim fire cartridge.
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Re: 22 matches
I've shot a Martini for several years at the Southeast Regional.
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Re: 22 matches
We shoot two classes in Friendship. Traditional and Modern. Even though I wish it was different, your Martini falls under the modern class for Silhouette, but as Clarance and DD have stated, it passes muster for target rifle matches.
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Re: 22 matches
we also have 2 classe, traditional and modern. We actually have 1 if not 2 guys that use them in modern class
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Re: 22 matches
In 22BPCRA matches, rifles must have exposed hammers.
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You know, has anyone else wondered where some of the rules concerning traditional and modern rifles have come from, much less what is and what is not allowed in the .22 silhouette realm. Confining the Martini to Modern rather than traditional when it was developed in 1860 seems arbitrary and definitely not objective and smells of someone's personal bias somewhere along the line.
CONNSIDER THIS: Built on the falling-block action developed in the 1860s by Henry O. Peabody, a Boston inventor, its action was improved by Swiss engineer Friedrich von Martini and married to the polygonal barrel rifling designed by Alexander Henry of Scotland, hence the gun's double-barreled name.
Arbitrary? Allowed in Target but not Silhouette? Yeah, I know all about the exposed hammer excuse and still shoot my Borchardts in Target. Sounds more like bias than anything else. Who threw objectivity out the window?
CONNSIDER THIS: Built on the falling-block action developed in the 1860s by Henry O. Peabody, a Boston inventor, its action was improved by Swiss engineer Friedrich von Martini and married to the polygonal barrel rifling designed by Alexander Henry of Scotland, hence the gun's double-barreled name.
Arbitrary? Allowed in Target but not Silhouette? Yeah, I know all about the exposed hammer excuse and still shoot my Borchardts in Target. Sounds more like bias than anything else. Who threw objectivity out the window?
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Re: 22 matches
It has to do with action or lock time! I know the exposed hammer guns have a slower action than do coil spring driven firing pins. Hence the advantage of “modern” actions. It’s not just someone pulling rules out of there butt.
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I’m not sure that all exposed hammer actions have slow lock times….
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True, however, as a rule exposed hammer guns are slower. Sharps are painfully slow compared to a high wall or a Hepburn. But even a highwall is slower than a spring driven firing pin.. The slower lock times have most effect on offhand shooting. Prone, not so much. I believe that is why hammerless actions are allowed in target shooting.
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The Peabody rifles were exposed side hammer until the Martini "improvements"
As near as discernible, when the original rules for silhouette were done, exempting the closed hammer guns was done to prevent the Ruger #1 and Colt's modernized Borchardts of the 1950' early 60's era from entering into the game.
As near as discernible, when the original rules for silhouette were done, exempting the closed hammer guns was done to prevent the Ruger #1 and Colt's modernized Borchardts of the 1950' early 60's era from entering into the game.
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Re: 22 matches
Tisk, tisk, AND at the Desert International February 8th that dead slow 1874 Shiloh Sharps bested all comers in both the World 1,000 and Ironman. You know those, by comparison, lightning fast Borchardts, Hepburns, Stevens, High Walls, etc, etc. As stated above I think objectivity is missing in actions.
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Re: 22 matches
Hey Zach, is there a completed equipment list from the desert international yet?