1876 Winchester

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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by MSalyards » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:39 pm

Help set me straight. With a single shot you need to blow tube but shooting black out of a repeater you do not? And what about keeping all of those parts clean in a lever gun? Kind of a pain? Just asking, I don't know much about them.

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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by desert deuce » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:48 pm

Cody, just go ahead and buy Coralee an new gun safe and then you can help her fill it up.

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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by Woody » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:19 pm

If your round carries enough lube, you can shoot a number of rounds with zero fouling control and still maintain acceptable accuracy. I've shot 30 plus rounds through my trapdoor on paper out to 300 yards with out any fouling control. Accuracy was very acceptable and I finished near the top of the leader board. When I cleaned up afterwords, No leading and no more powder fouling than it I had been blow tubing. I've done the same with my Colt 1861 Special rifled musket. It took 13 rounds before fouling made loading difficult. The last shot fired during that string hit a ram at 500 yards. Remember these leverguns are not target rifles, but hunting rifles. Target accuracy is not to be expected but sometimes does show up. My original 73 and 76 both can be expected to maintain hunting MOD,(Minute of Deer), for 10 or more shots with no fouling control.

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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by Woody » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:45 pm

They are not Marlins, but they are true rifles of the West. Both of these were made in 1882 and sport original Lyman tang sights specifically for that model Winchester. The 73 is a 44-40 and the 76 is a 45-60.
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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by Glen Ring » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:09 pm

Very cool Woody !!
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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by MLV » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:34 pm

Between 1995 and 2004 I fired hundreds of rounds through a Cimarron/ Uberti M1873 .44-40. In 2005 I pulled the side plates off for the first time and found not a speck of bp fouling in there. My regular cleaning was with the rifle upside down with barrel tilted slightly up. Most of the gunk fell out of the top of the action instead of down into it. A help is that .44-40 brass being so thin and tapered seals at firing which prevents gas blow back. Lever guns in .45 Colt don’t seal well and have much blow by.
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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by BFD » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:44 pm

Mike what were you using for lead alloy and lube? Do you find harder or softer lead better for shooting dirty? Or does it matter at all?

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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by MLV » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:08 pm

I pretty much stick to 1-20. Lube for me has always been SPG but since Johnny and Amber Spratling bought DGL they fixed me up with some. I shot my highest score ever on the Butte range in August. Not highest ever. Just highest on that hell hole.
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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by BFD » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:17 pm

Thanks,
I've been playing with paper patches and lube cookies and was wondering if harder is better. I've been using 16:1 and 40:1 But I've got a ways to go to really know what works best.

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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by Orville » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:51 am

TR thought highly of the 76, liked the 45-75 for grizzlies and kept a 40-60 at his elk horn ranch for shooting grouse in the heads, the 40-60 was known to be a very accurate rifle, 210 grain bullet with a 1-40 twist. I’ve shot all of them reproductions and originals and enjoy the 40-60 the most.
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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by Kurt » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:50 am

Woody wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:19 pm
If your round carries enough lube, you can shoot a number of rounds with zero fouling control and still maintain acceptable accuracy. I've shot 30 plus rounds through my trapdoor on paper out to 300 yards with out any fouling control. Accuracy was very acceptable and I finished near the top of the leader board. When I cleaned up afterwords, No leading and no more powder fouling than it I had been blow tubing. I've done the same with my Colt 1861 Special rifled musket. It took 13 rounds before fouling made loading difficult. The last shot fired during that string hit a ram at 500 yards. Remember these leverguns are not target rifles, but hunting rifles. Target accuracy is not to be expected but sometimes does show up. My original 73 and 76 both can be expected to maintain hunting MOD,(Minute of Deer), for 10 or more shots with no fouling control.

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Both of mine the rifle and carbine shoot well without fouling control.
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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by Amigo » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:25 am

I had at one time a Uberti 1876 crossfire carbine and I shot a nice 12pt buck with it at around
80yards .The buck went down like it was hit by a Mack truck .I was using black powder and a 300 grain bullet cast from an original bullet mould.Unfortunately I let a friend talk me out of that gun but I plan to rectify that soon and purchase another.One thing though the 76 Wins
Even the carbine versions like the Sharps rifles can be a lot to tote around all day hunting
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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by Amigo » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:26 am

I had at one time a Uberti 1876 crossfire carbine and I shot a nice 12pt buck with it at around
80yards .The buck went down like it was hit by a Mack truck .I was using black powder and a 300 grain bullet cast from an original bullet mould.Unfortunately I let a friend talk me out of that gun but I plan to rectify that soon and purchase another.One thing though the 76 Wins
Even the carbine versions like the Sharps rifles can be a lot to tote around all day hunting
Always aim to be careful and always be careful
to aim

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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by Kirk Stovall » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:50 pm

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Re: 1876 Winchester

Post by MSalyards » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:53 pm

Nice pic's, I'm jealous.

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