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22rf insert
anyone using a 22rf insert in there shiloh? how does it shoot and any problems? thanks art
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Re: 22rf insert
I've got a Crossno in my 1994 Montana Roughrider 45-70. Accurate to 400 yds with iron sights and the right ammo. I use Wolf Match Extra.
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Re: 22rf insert
Art, I have a Crossno .22 liner that I bought from Shiloh. When I use it in my .45-70 Long Range Express it will hit the MVA sight base a little on the way in. As a result I used it almost entirely in a C. Sharps highwall.
It shot pretty well, especially for the price. I generally don't ever shoot from the bench, but I did a little to test ammo for it. Here is a ten shot group at 100m benchrest. Except for the one wonky shot, the rest went into just under a minute of angle. That's a Canadian quarter, but it's the same size as an American one .
The group was shot with RWS R50 ammo, benchrest, with very little wind. No sight adjustments were made on the string. Eley Center X seemed to shoot just as good. The cheap stuff didn't work very well for me.
I don't use the liner much these days as I have a CPA which shoots a little tighter using much cheaper SK Standard Plus.
Chris.
It shot pretty well, especially for the price. I generally don't ever shoot from the bench, but I did a little to test ammo for it. Here is a ten shot group at 100m benchrest. Except for the one wonky shot, the rest went into just under a minute of angle. That's a Canadian quarter, but it's the same size as an American one .
The group was shot with RWS R50 ammo, benchrest, with very little wind. No sight adjustments were made on the string. Eley Center X seemed to shoot just as good. The cheap stuff didn't work very well for me.
I don't use the liner much these days as I have a CPA which shoots a little tighter using much cheaper SK Standard Plus.
Chris.
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That is plumb amazing to me from an insert as that ten shot group is nearly as good as any high dollar match .22 rifle I've ever witnessed, including mine.
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Mike it is pretty amazing for $185. Especially because up here I am paying $25 a box for RWS R50 so after a few days shooting you can spend more on ammo than the liner
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Chris if you'll of put a minute and 1/2 left wind in you would of got that quarter.
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This was my first outing with my Crossno 10 years ago.
The extreme left and right were sighters. Pretty close to MOA.
The bottom was my Marlin 1895CB, 405 gr Lyman, with 25 gr 5744.
The extreme left and right were sighters. Pretty close to MOA.
The bottom was my Marlin 1895CB, 405 gr Lyman, with 25 gr 5744.
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Re: 22rf insert
thanks guys do you have to remove the extractor? art
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No need to remove the extractor, but you do need to watch not to open the block to hard or it will pull the liner out just a touch.
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Re: 22rf insert
I would mention one thing,
Consider using something to extend the muzzle of the insert to the muzzle of your rifle.
Kenny Wasserburger.
Consider using something to extend the muzzle of the insert to the muzzle of your rifle.
Kenny Wasserburger.
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Re: 22rf insert
That is a really good point Kenny, and one I'd forgotten about. After a day's shooting I'd get a really hard ring of fouling in my barrel just where the end of the insert ended in the barrel. I always found it hard to remove.
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Just to keep it interesting, I did not like it.
It shot fine. I didn't like the loading (with a pusher stick) or ejecting. To much screwing around.
It shot fine. I didn't like the loading (with a pusher stick) or ejecting. To much screwing around.
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Re: 22rf insert
I bought the one for the 40-65 chamber to use in my Shiloh Saddle gun chambered for the 40-2.1" BN they cut for back in the 80's. Works fine, groups Norma TAC as good as the group picture posted by Gunlaker. Ditto on what Gussy says about loading and ejecting. bobw
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The liners do make a good way to get some trigger time with a rifle. They also serve to get folks started in the 22 bpcr game , and gives the shooter a chance to decide if they want to get a dedicated rifle, but they are a pain in the neck for loading and unloading, and it's not uncommon for time to run out on a relay and still not have all 10 animals shot at.
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