45-70 “money bullet mold”

[green chile]

Is this the style and mold that is well liked by many members here? https://www.buffaloarms.com/459-535-gra ... im459535m1

I was looking for a good mold for my Shiloh 1877 that is coming this week. It will be loaded with black for silhouette and long distance shooting. I know the mold I listed is shown to be out of stock but I understand they will make it if I call?

Any other thoughts on the 45-70 molds that I should be considering? Thanks.

[kenny s]

I have a new BA money mould and am testing it now for my 40 70 SS shiloh 400 408 barrle.
great quality. keep the sprue plate tight to avoid base whiskers

I bought the three reduced band bullet. allows me to load further out. you may think about that.
I ordered .408 for the base bands and they slip fit the 40 70 JBA cases. have to slightly expand some, but
they work. casting 1 16 so far.

first test at 100 not bad....not great.

they will cut the mould to your diameter. I had the 409 cut to 408 instead. same price. one month wait.
Ken

[Don McDowell]

Is this the style and mold that is well liked by many members here? https://www.buffaloarms.com/459-535-gra ... im459535m1

I was looking for a good mold for my Shiloh 1877 that is coming this week. It will be loaded with black for silhouette and long distance shooting. I know the mold I listed is shown to be out of stock but I understand they will make it if I call?

Any other thoughts on the 45-70 molds that I should be considering? Thanks.

Yes, that's a good bullet if you're going to shoot greaser. It will work cast from 20-1, but you might find it to shoot better cast from 16-1.
BACO only shows moulds they have excess in as available on the web. A call to them will get you an "out of stock" mould in a couple of weeks or so.
While you're waiting you may want to get a hold of a pound of Bullshop Nasa bullet lube.

[gunlaker]

I have the 459535 Money bullet as well as the 458535. I like the 458535 more as it's nose is just under bore diameter. My 459535 bullet has a nose at 0.452" so although it shoots very well, it will always leave some lead in the bore. All of my .45 cal rifle shoot the 458535 money very well.

Chris.

[Don McDowell]

You will need a set of Saeco handles for that mould. You may be quite happy getting ahold of KAL and getting a set of his Saeco handles.

[BFD]

Is this the style and mold that is well liked by many members here? https://www.buffaloarms.com/459-535-gra ... im459535m1

I was looking for a good mold for my Shiloh 1877 that is coming this week. It will be loaded with black for silhouette and long distance shooting. I know the mold I listed is shown to be out of stock but I understand they will make it if I call?

Any other thoughts on the 45-70 molds that I should be considering? Thanks.

I wouldn't buy it. It has those funny weird grooves running crosswise on it.

[Kurt]

Is this the style and mold that is well liked by many members here? https://www.buffaloarms.com/459-535-gra ... im459535m1

I was looking for a good mold for my Shiloh 1877 that is coming this week. It will be loaded with black for silhouette and long distance shooting. I know the mold I listed is shown to be out of stock but I understand they will make it if I call?

Any other thoughts on the 45-70 molds that I should be considering? Thanks.

I wouldn't buy it. It has those funny weird grooves running crosswise on it.

Yup speed bumps !!
Or rumble strips

[green chile]

I have the 459535 Money bullet as well as the 458535. I like the 458535 more as it's nose is just under bore diameter. My 459535 bullet has a nose at 0.452" so although it shoots very well, it will always leave some lead in the bore. All of my .45 cal rifle shoot the 458535 money very well.

Chris.

Excellent feedback. Sounds like you would have a small preference for the .458 money mold over the .459. I was looking at that one too and was curious about it. This one? https://www.buffaloarms.com/458-535-gra ... im458535m1

[gunlaker]

Yeah that is the one. I've got maybe 4 or 5 variants of the BACO grease grooved money bullets and that is the one that is working best for me. The only thing I'd change about it would be to make it a mini-groove bullet as I wipe between shots and don't need a lot of lube.

I've used it with slip fit, or light ( 0.001" neck tension ). It seems to prefer light neck tension, mostly to get more consistent velocity numbers.

With that said I haven't put enough effort yet into the BACO 459540M3 for my long range rifle. I imagine that one will shoot quite well too. So far though, in 300 yard testing, the 458535M1 is still a little better.

Chris.

[Don McDowell]

Excellent feedback. Sounds like you would have a small preference for the .458 money mold over the .459. I was looking at that one too and was curious about it. This one? https://www.buffaloarms.com/458-535-gra ... im458535m1

It works.

[VectorMan]

Don, I have one that shoots well in my 1-16 twist Green Mountain barrel. This weekend I’m going to try the Paper Patch version.

[SFogler]

At Ben Avery Aviator was shooting a 45-70 with a 540 grain bullet, BP load, and a 1-16 twist and did extremely well with it in all wind conditions at 1000 yards.

[Etienne Brule]

I have the 459535 Money bullet as well as the 458535. I like the 458535 more as it's nose is just under bore diameter. My 459535 bullet has a nose at 0.452" so although it shoots very well, it will always leave some lead in the bore. All of my .45 cal rifle shoot the 458535 money very well.

Chris.

Hi Chris,

I used to shoot the PJ Creedmoor 45001 since almost 10 years and I would like to test the Money Bullet.

I was looking to the 459535, but then I saw your post.

Could you tell what is the nose diameter of the 458535 Money bullet ?

Any other suggestion about GG bullets ?

Gerald

[Dennis Armistead]

Is this the style and mold that is well liked by many members here? https://www.buffaloarms.com/459-535-gra ... im459535m1

I was looking for a good mold for my Shiloh 1877 that is coming this week. It will be loaded with black for silhouette and long distance shooting. I know the mold I listed is shown to be out of stock but I understand they will make it if I call?

Any other thoughts on the 45-70 molds that I should be considering? Thanks.

Just my 2 cents...how do you intend to load? For long distance shooting in a .45-2.1 you'll need to load as much powder as you can so you can achieve decent velocity unless you plan to load duplex. If loading straight black, I would get a mold with a reduced two front bands. Silhouette shooting is different because of the 200 yard offhand. Most folks don't load heavy for this string or they use a lighter bullet (chicken) because of recoil to keep them on target. Also remember that if you load with a mini money, you'll have to wipe in between shots. This will cause a time delay for silhouette unless using pigs. If you load as cast, the .458 is usually the way to go, if you plan on resizing then you might want to consider the .459 and size down. This year I was shooting a 459540M3 and it performed great except I had to stay on top of fouling control because the wind was drying out my patches to fast In a .45-2.1 you can get away with casting 20:1 and not worry to much about nose stump, I cast at 16:1 because of my caliber .45-2.6 with a velocity of 1385. Hope this helps.
Dennis

[bruce m]

if you can measure the inside diameter of fired cases, the bands that are in the case are best cast to be a sliding fit in there.
the nose should, as gunlaker notes, be less than bore diameter, but only minimally.
these bullets respond well to harder alloys, as noses can bump into the rifling, and being unlubed will cause leading.
bad bullet fit can to a degree be alleviated by softer alloy.
the key to max accuracy in these guns is to fill any space with alloy, as this minimizes alloy movement on firing.
bruce.