My Shiloh Journey

Talk with other Shiloh Sharps shooters.

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Steve Sudbeck
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by Steve Sudbeck » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:36 pm

I was told that I am about a month away; initial delivery was August, 2020 but for the virus. I am a sucker for wood so one of my upgrades was “exhibition” with most of the other frills. I have also sent two Miroku Winchester’s to Turnbull for their magic - I lean toward a few nice rifles vs volume; these days, I look at my rifles more than I shoot them so I will have lookers that I can hold and talk to. Another Shiloh may be on the horizon if the stock market keeps going - nice rifles are definitely my addiction. The waiting times just seem forever especially at my age, so I wait like an excited young child.

Griff
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by Griff » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:11 pm

MikeT wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:23 pm
Griff,

Since you may have a lot of time on your hands now, how about sharing the specifications
of the rifle you will be expecting next year.

Keep on hav'n fun!
MikeT
It seems that whenever someone gives the specifications that they're planning on, others jump in (not in a bad way) to offer alternatives. Everyone has opinions based upon their personal preferences and intentions. No doubt that will happen here, but that's OK--I understand.

Here are my final specifications. Keep in mind that I'm trying to duplicate common rifles from the early 1870s buffalo hunt. I'm basing this on several rifles detailed in Sellers' and Marcot's books as well as other sources.

Hartford model in 44-77 with a 30" heavy octagon barrel, polished. Standard wood with a military buttplate and brass escutcheons. Fireblued screws, Lawrence rear sight, Distant Thunder buffalo hunter tang sight and #111 globe front sight. I've asked that it be marked with "Calibre 44" on the top flat and "2 1/4" on the right flat, "upside down" so to speak. It was a little unclear if they could oblige on that.

I was planning to compromise a little and go with the standard color case hardening. I'm not sure that it's worth another $300 plus to me, but I could be persuaded. If I had been entering the next production lot, I'd have skipped it, but with the unforeseen delay, I may check the couch cushions and pockets of clothes that I haven't worn in a while and see if I can scrounge up the money...

Griff
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bohemianway
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by bohemianway » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:29 pm

Griff,

Yours with 32" and 40-50BN (easier to get brass and still 100% originality) is my order. Also to basically make an early Hartford or 1869ish. On my originals all have 30" barrels one is 44-77. I personally like the standard mat barrel finish over the polished. My reason is that the originals have a sort of mat blue not a glossy blue which makes a Shiloh look like a Pedersoli to my eyes. As for barrel weight the heavy is the only option but be aware that the Shiloh is a bit smaller dimensionally than the originals and that is why I opted for 32" which yield similar rifle weight. As for case finish I opt for standard since the bone really is not a dramatic change to the appearance and lets face it, it is not an original Sharps. So the standard case and barrel finish is truly a modern interpretation of an original. JMTCW,


Regards
Charles

semtav
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Location: Montana

Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by semtav » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:48 pm

You guys are almost making me feel guilty for cutting in line !!! Almost 8)
16 lb 45- 2 7/8

downside is I only got to spend 12 hr with it before I had to put it away til fall. and half of that was sleeping.
No I didn't sleep with it. Wife put her foot down on that idea :D
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Griff
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by Griff » Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:52 pm

I decided to go ahead and get the pack harden finish. I think that it looks better, and it's more authentic. The only reason not to get it is the money. I fear that years down the road, I might regret if I didn't pay the extra money, but I doubt that I would regret having spent that money years from now. The upgrade also helps soften the disappointment that I'm feeling because of having an extra long waiting time. Every time I think about that, my heart sinks, but at least now I have an additional feature to look forward to.

Griff
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sackett
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by sackett » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:50 pm

Your 2 year wait really isn't so bad. To put your wait time into perspective, my Shiloh took 5-6 weeks shy of 5 years to get (ordered in 1994-1995 time frame). Shiloh # 2 should be just shy of 2 years.

Griff
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by Griff » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:13 pm

I'm afraid that my wait will be pushing (or longer than) three years. I ordered the rifle in August, 2019, but it appears that I just missed the last production lot for 30 inch barrels. They are scheduled to do a run of 32 and 34 inch heavy barrels next, then (maybe) a run of lightweight barrels. Possibly after that will be a run of 30 inch heavy barrels, but I'm not sure. I don't have a good grasp of how long we're talking about, but it will be well into 2022.

Once I have the rifle in hand, it won't matter much, but in the meantime, I'm quite disappointed. The original estimate was for 18 months, but it's not working out that way. This is a retirement gift from my bride. We knew that the gun wouldn't be finished prior to my April 2020 retirement, but we didn't plan on it being over two years later...
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Michael Johnson
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by Michael Johnson » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:18 pm

Griff,I know how you feel about the delay. I ordered a 40-90BN in a heavy round barrel configuration before your order. I had been advised it might be ready in November of last year. It went to be checkered in February of this year and just arrived yesterday. It is spectacular! I ordered it as a retirement present to myself. I also have a Shiloh No. 1 in 45-70 and a 45-2.6 LRE. Shiloh builds awesome semi custom rifles. They are not cheap but I believe they are the best rifles bar none, made in North America. Excellent, precisely built rifles take skill, talent, and time to build. I believe the last 12 months have been very trying for all, not the least of which smaller manufacturers like Shiloh Sharps. Try to be patient because it is so very worth it. - Mike

Chief Beck
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by Chief Beck » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:15 am

Griff,

Stay with the pack hardened metal finish you will not regret it! It's 100% more original than the chemical tiger strip pattern which is their standard finish.
I commend you on your choice of appointments, I did similar on my last one! The only thing that I neglected was the caliber marking - you did not, very nice touch! Also keep in mind that the length of pull on Shiloh's are about 14" - 14-1/4" something you may want to take into account.

Dennis
"40 knots, no smoke"

"No man who refuses to bear arms in defense of his nation can give a sound reason why he should be allowed to live in a free country."
Teddy Roosevelt

Griff
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by Griff » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:00 am

Thanks for the additional comments, gents. I also appreciate the fact that you can understand my disappointment.

I wish that there was a "like" button or something. I read, contemplate and appreciate all of the input offered here.

Griff
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BML
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Re: My Shiloh Journey

Post by BML » Sat May 01, 2021 1:12 pm

I will be at 3 years of waiting in 20 days.

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