200 yd postal match Nov-Dec 2019

[BFD]

Looks good Steve. I'm sure it will be a one-holer when the wind aint' blowin'

[Aviator]

HA! But I think the wind has been blowing at every match I've been to!

Thanks for the kind words, guys. Hopefully I'll get out to the range a few more times this month. The mail woman left three 50 lb boxes of 16:1 alloy in my mailbox the other day. Amazingly, the mailbox is still serviceable....

[BFD]

It hardly blew at all at Harris or Lodi this year.

You have a big mailbox.

[semtav]

SCOPE

3.160 Aviator....SR74........45-70............57.5 gr Swiss 2F.......GG
3.250 Kurt .......CPA.........44-75............82 gr OE 2F......... ...PP
3.875 Aviator.....SR74.......45-70............57.5 gr Swiss 2F.......GG
4.030 Woody......HW.........40-65............60 gr Swiss 2F...... ..GG
4.300 Woody......HW.........45-70............61.5 gr Swiss 2F... ...GG
4.875 BFD.........HW ........38-72............80 gr Swiss 1.5........PP
5.750 BFD.........HW............??..............82 gr Swiss 1.5??......PP??



IRON


3.062 ian45662....SR74.....45-70..............83 gr Swiss 1.5.......PP
4.000 semtav......HW.......45-90..............95 gr Swiss 1.5.......PP
4.187 ian45662....HW.......45-70..............82 gr Swiss 1.5.......PP
4.500 DAG45-70...SR74.....45-70..............64 gr Swiss 1.5.......GG
4.750 SFogler......SR74.....45 2.6.............84 gr Swiss 1.5.......GG
4.875 semtav......HW.......45-90..............95gr Swiss 1.5........PP
5.125 DAG45-70...SR74.....45-70..............64 gr Swiss 1.5.......GG
5.250 semtav......W#1......45 2.6.............95 gr OE 1.5...........PP
5.500 SFogler......SR74.....45 2.6.............87 gr Swiss 1.5........GG
6.187 ian45662... SR74.....45-70..............83 gr Swiss 1.5........PP
6.375 Woody.......SR77.....45 2.4.............63 gr Swiss 2F.........GG
6.500 Kurt.........AX77.....45 2.6.............90 gr OE 2F.............PP
8.750 TAA.........SR74......40 2-1/2..........68 gr OE 1.5...........GG
9.125 Kurt.........AX77.....45 2.6.............88 gr Swiss 1.5.........PP
10.75 semtav......HW.......45-70..............40 gr BH209............PP
12.50 TAA.........SR74......40 2-1/2..........69 gr OE 1 1/2.........PP

Now you've gone and knocked the PP off the top of the scope. Kurt or Brent or ?? are gonna have to remedy that.
At least we have Ian holding us in first overall !!

Good shooting !! Weather went south on us pretty bad this morning.

[desert deuce]

Kurt, seriously...…...I for one won't be surprised if Aviator posts a sub MOA group at 200.

Just a matter of time as he becomes one with his rifle and load.

[BFD]

Now you've gone and knocked the PP off the top of the scope. Kurt or Brent or ?? are gonna have to remedy that.
At least we have Ian holding us in first overall !!

Good shooting !! Weather went south on us pretty bad this morning.

[John Bly]

I finally got out today. It's the first time the wind wasn't blowing like crazy and our deer season is over so I didn't have to worry about upsetting any hunters with my shooting. I shot 2 rifles, my 40/65 Shiloh and my 40/70 Shiloh. I didn't have my regular shooting glasses. They went to the lab for new lenses with the optical center moved on the right lens for better target discrimination. The glasses place sent the frames and lenses both to the lab to help ensure that they get it right. The bullseye was sort of a gray blob but I shot anyway. Results were less than spectacular with both groups around 6 1/4". I can only get 190 yards without moving the target dangerously up the hill. I'll post pictures tomorrow. I know both rifles will shoot much better because I've done it with both. Hell, my trapdoor shoots better than I shot today.

[Kurt]

Kurt, seriously...…...I for one won't be surprised if Aviator posts a sub MOA group at 200.

Just a matter of time as he becomes one with his rifle and load.

Zack it can be done. But I don't think it can be every time one goes out with 10 shot groups.
I have done it a few times with 5 shots with my new .40-65 I just started to work with getting it ready for using it for the silhouette matches but I haven't had time to spend with it as much as I would like. This rifle has a very tight chamber were a bore diameter PP bullet is a snug fit in a clean fired unsized case and a 4 degree/1.5 funnel transition chamber end that shot a 5 shot ladder load with 63 gr of 3F swiss that went 3/4" vertical 1-1/8" horizontal and another using 2F Swiss that went just a little larger.
But I haven't been able to repeat this every time out or with more than 5 shots fired.

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[Kurt]

Now you've gone and knocked the PP off the top of the scope. Kurt or Brent or ?? are gonna have to remedy that.
At least we have Ian holding us in first overall !!

Brian the wex turned and getting down right miserable. If I go out anymore I will have to drag the ice shanty to the range with a heater to keep my pinky's warm so I can feel the trigger.

[desert deuce]

Aviator, not being picky but...…….I keep looking at that target you posted and thinking (that's where the curiosity began) you know that group actually looks less than 3.160" and it is true that looks can be deceiving.

So, I am wondering what the measurement would be if one used the one inch line on the tape on the far left hole and moved the tape down on to the far right hole? This is the wondering time of year you know?

[Aviator]

Well, I measured center to center on the widest separated holes, laying the tape right over the holes.
I actually generally put the 10 inch mark on the center of the left hole, and then read to the center of the furthest hole.

For my records on group sizes, I measure differently than this. I record vertical spread and horizontal spread, not the diagonal widest separated. I figure vertical spread is the best indicator of the load, and horizontal is the indicator of the wind (and my ability to read it). Though of course some conditions can also affect vertical. Not an exact science!

I'll keep trying! Kurt has a point. Ten shots without letting one slip away is not easy!

[desert deuce]

Could not agree more about the importance of vertical dispersion.

Just know that it is O.K. to submit smaller groups. You have arrived at the point where 'most' on this forum won't hold it against you. Go ahead and submit those sub minute of angle groups.

For your own information, know that your grease groove load measures up. I found that out in my rifles long ago and once you prove something to yourself about the ability of "your rifle and load" you end up reproving that conclusion over and over again. The only results you have control over are your own.

Keep on amazing us.

[BFD]

Made it to the range again today!
Mid 40's, with wind mostly in my face 10 to 15 gusting to 25.

Same rifle and load as my previous entry, but a better group today.
Too bad that one shot got away from me!

3.16 inch separation


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Shiloh 1874 45-70 w/ 32 inch barrel
DZ Arms scope
Buffalo Arms Money 459542M3 grease groove (SPG lube)
Swiss 2F 57.5 gr
~1140 fps
Buffalo Arms bore wipes w/ MPro7

I would love to know what batch of powder you are using, if you don't mind posting.

Brent

[semtav]

If I go out anymore I will have to drag the ice shanty to the range with a heater to keep my pinky's warm so I can feel the trigger.

I've been using Brent's wiping solution. Mainly cause im getting real lazy and it comes premixed. Im not going to do the antifreeze trick, so im either gonna switch to the
BH209 loads or use whiskey for my wiping solutuon. That way if they do get hard, i can just pop them in my mouth to thaw them out.

[Woody]

Now there is idea I could go for!

Woody