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OK, so OE is out there and some of us are dabbling in it more than others. Apparently a few are considering making the transition to OE.

FLASH, Goex is owned by Hodgdons. Hodgdons made Goex Express which shot well enough for me to consider transitioning to Express from Swiss then Hodgdons ceased production of EXPRESS. Why I don't know for sure. Weak sales maybe? (They still make regular red label Goex & Pyrodex)

The crucible of competition is where components make their bones. If OE is capable of competitive performance we Cartridge Shooters should be both Judge and Jury on the suitability of OE for competition. Not the Gunzines. (Black Powder Cartridge News excepted)

Looking at the participation that having postal matches in general have generated what about an OE Postal Match? Sort of a put your load and target results up for public view? Very much an OE Postal Match exclusively. Still have Postals for others like Swiss, Schuetzen, Goex, etc but let's zero in on OE.

And, since Semtav has emerged as Le Maestro of Postales we can allow him to continue in his role contingent upon his gracious acceptance.

Target results, Lot & granulation of OE, charge weight, bullet, alloy, primer, case, wads, caliber, rifle barrel and twist. Let the facts emerge.
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Let me be the first to play,

I have been using O/E 1.5 pretty much since it came out in my Long Range load for the 45-90. This is a recent target shot at 823 yards. There was a variable wind from 9:00 to 10:00 running about 10 MPH. If you have seen Kurt's pictures of this range you know you are shooting across a canyon which runs mainly East to West. The hit at two o'clock is doubled for eight shots and that's all you get. No sighters. The one off the nose was a bad call on my part. I moved my hold just a little too much to correct for a gust. I was very pleased with the vertical spread.
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Exactly Dead Eye....The details of the trial with the results. Go to front of the class.
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If someone would give me an e mail to send a picture to I can shot the best target I have ever shot which unfortunately was with a greaser. It was shot with a lot of OE that’s probably no longer available. I can post the lot # with the picture. Wednesday I am going to the local silhouette range to put this newer OE on some turkeys.
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Ian, you can send it to me. I'll post for you.
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Good idea Zack.

If it ever stops pouring rain here, and the fog lifts, I'll shoot a few targets.

Here is the last target I shot with OE 1.5, plus my notes. I only shot 9 shots, I think I rumpled the patch on one of the bullets and it wouldn't chamber.

Anyway, 200m prone. X ring is about 1.8" wide. I was very surprised at how accurate the load was, other than the two ugly flyers. I haven't messed with it anymore since as the bad weather has set in.

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2018 Midrange Any Nationals Raton NM Scope Class champion

Load 102 grs Olde Eynsford 1.5 compressed .380 after dropped

Norma Brass, annealed
Winchester WLR White box primer primer wad inside case
.060 veg wad to compress, .060 poly on top, followed by 1/8 Sagebrush felt wad
540 gr Paul Jones Money PP bullet .445 diameter patched with Seth Cole paper.

Wiped between shots 3 wet 2 dry.

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And the last one

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I think the Baker Mt. Big Hill is the toughest and must frustrating Gong shoot I shoot at. And that Buffalo target I thing eats most shooters lunch because shooter the canyon and next to the raising hill it sits on. When the winds pick up and the flag is pointing up instead horizontal you know you better be on your toes if you want to clean that target. I never have yet.

I liked the Goex Exp. also but the 2F OE does just as good and yes it is capable of winning and placing in a match. It has put dust collectors on my wall from the Quigley, Alliance and the Silhouette matches I just started shooting. It has put me in the top 10 at the Q and several times knocked me out of the top 10 by ty breakers.
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ian45662 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:02 pm If someone would give me an e mail to send a picture to I can shot the best target I have ever shot which unfortunately was with a greaser. It was shot with a lot of OE that’s probably no longer available. I can post the lot # with the picture. Wednesday I am going to the local silhouette range to put this newer OE on some turkeys.
Here are two pictures that I am posting for Ian.

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I shot this 6 years ago when I first got my highwall. I was doing load development. 67 grains of OE with a brooks 540 grain Creedmoor sized to .458. Federal 210m primer and Walters .030 fiber wad. Fire formed case with no neck tension. The 2 holes at the bottom were 9 and 10. Could have been me. By the time I got to that point I was as giggling like a school girl.
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Thanks Ian for the information. :D
Now those are the kinds of groups grease groove bullets are capable of. :wink:
I also note the vertical in the 8 shot group looks to be less than one inch. 8)
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Chris, looks like you are on to something. Guessing that 2.25" for the MVA tube is about 71 grains ?
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I follow these threads with great interest, as the last Swiss 1.5 case was so much different than what I have been used to. That being said with some tweeking it has performed very will. It seems to me that no matter what powder we are using and the way each lot# changes that by the time we get a load figured out that lot may not be available any more. Sure you finally get it to shoot, but by the time the word gets out is it going to be available to the rest of us. I was quizzing the outfit I get my powder from about trying a different brand. He kept stressing the point that if it's working don't change. That being said I really want to give the OE a shot.
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desert deuce wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:08 pm Chris, looks like you are on to something. Guessing that 2.25" for the MVA tube is about 71 grains ?
It's about 77-78 grains Zack. A pretty light load for a .45-70 with paper patched bullets, but it's fluffy powder. This is one of my rifles with Dan T.'s PP chamber.

Ian's group sure looks nice!

I have a fresh case of the same lot of powder I shot that last group with, so I'll have plenty of powder to see if it's consistent.

Here is another 10 shot target with a Shiloh .45-70 Long Range Express using the same lot of powder. It's a great group if you ignore the two shots I pulled a little :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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This was a pretty light load. Also unweighed, but should be around 65.5gr or so.

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