Reading bullet bases

[GrumpyBear]

Kurt so which direction do you recommend the wads being placed ?

[Kurt]

Kurt so which direction do you recommend the wads being placed ?

I have none. I don't find it to make a difference. The only difference I see is how the wad enters a tight case mouth when I push them in. The rounded edge starts in the case easier.

[J.B.]

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I have none. I don't find it to make a difference. The only difference I see is how the wad enters a tight case mouth when I push them in. The rounded edge starts in the case easier.
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... That ...and after 50 or 100 cases...your finger won't look like its been run up and down a cheese grater ! Hope to catch up in June Kurt. Too warm here for you at the moment. ...Actually its too warm here for me too.

J.B.

[GrumpyBear]

Kurt so which direction do you recommend the wads being placed ?

I have none. I don't find it to make a difference. The only difference I see is how the wad enters a tight case mouth when I push them in. The rounded edge starts in the case easier.

Whew ! That's what I do also, because it's easier.

[Kurt]

JB I hope the heat is from the sun and not the fire for you.
See you in June. ASK if you need something.

[Perentie]

Kurt so which direction do you recommend the wads being placed ?

I have none. I don't find it to make a difference. The only difference I see is how the wad enters a tight case mouth when I push them in. The rounded edge starts in the case easier.

Whew ! That's what I do also, because it's easier.

Me too but if I just punch them out it is hard to tell at a glance which side is which. I now run a black marker pen along the edge of the poly about 1/4 inch in. Now each wad has a stripe I put inside the case mouth first. Easy. I use the BACO press mounted punch.

Keith

[mdeland]

I've tried both poly and veggie wads and could tell no difference in performance so the reason I have stuck with Veggie is because I don't like to see plastic all over the range. Scientific ,no? I buy the head gasket for diesels trucks in sheet's at .062 thick last I checked. I made my own Cornell type loading press wad dies and actually like punching the little suckers out,kinda like popping bubble wrap.
I did come up with one invention that works well with the loading press wad punch. Probably already though of but I've never seen one before. I took a pie tin and cut out a hole in the center that allows the die body to pass through then tighten down on the press top under the lock ring. Now all your wads come out the top of the die and drop into the pie tin for easy recovery.

[mdeland]

Finning on bullet bases, now there's a topic for discussion as I have read and heard told for years how bad it is for accuracy but have never seen any definitive testing and write up on the notion. It's one of those deals that is supposed to be common knowledge but I'm often skeptical when things are supposed to be so just because often repeated as fact.
I've never done any testing and recovery of such bullets so can't really say on a personal level one way or another. Seems to me that logically they should not be any more anathema to bullet accuracy than is fletching to an arrow.

[Shadow 4]

What about the HDPE wads?
Anybody using them?
To what effect?
Actual experience?
Difference between the two?

[TAA]

POLY WAD DIRECTION

I can remember reading Merrill Martin’s articles on wads in Precision Shooting magazine, many years ago. It was noted that there is a slight bevel on the edge of the wad as a result of being punched out of the sheet of ploy material. It was stated that the wad should always be inserted into the case with the largest OD of the wad up against the base of the bullet.

Drawing a series of felt tip marker pen parallel lines on one side of the poly sheet and keeping that sheet surface oriented the same way as the punch is used, so as noted above, when the line on the wad is kept in mind as the wad is inserted in each case, they will all be inserted the same way.

Tom

[kwilliams]

I punch all my wads on my press, felt, cork, veggie, poly, tablet etc. The idea of marking the mat'l with a felt marker is a great one I will do on the next run.
Reading all this info seems to indicate there are different poly materials.....is that true? Would someone weigh in explaining the choices available....I just bought sheets of what Buffalo Arms sells in .03 and .06.
Recovered more slugs today and in my .40 the .030 bases look the same as the .060". Real pain digging frozen Montana dirt but I got a hand full out of my berm.
thanks
kw

[kwilliams]

Funny it was mentioned about littering with plastic wads, I shoot at home from same bench location and maybe I have found 5 in five years........maybe the pack rats gather them up at night! They go somewhere. I struggle to find the patches from M/L rifles, maybe the "gentle" breezes here take care of that too.
kw

[Woody]

High Density Poly is the other type of material available. It is considerably stiffer and will require more pressure to obdurate and seal. It also has to be sized more precisely than the softer Low Density Poly, or it either will not seal, or it will distort the case wall upon loading.

Woody

[gunlaker]

Shadow, I have never played with HDPE, but talking with Dan T on the phone one time, he told me of some testing results. He wanted to see the how finning of the base was affected by wad material. I don't remember what thickness he used, but basically the harder the wad the less finning on recovered bullets.

Chris.

[Shadow 4]

High Density Poly is the other type of material available. It is considerably stiffer and will require more pressure to obdurate and seal. It also has to be sized more precisely than the softer Low Density Poly, or it either will not seal, or it will distort the case wall upon loading.

Woody

Thanks Woody, I'll measure the wads I punched out & compare to the ones that came with the kit when I got it. He'd never had a problem with case separation or stretching

Shadow, I have never played with HDPE, but talking with Dan T on the phone one time, he told me of some testing results. He wanted to see the how finning of the base was affected by wad material. I don't remember what thickness he used, but basically the harder the wad the less finning on recovered bullets.

Chris.

I've never used poly wads, (still don't, cept this particular rifle), walters has always worked for myself & the girls.
I came into possession of one, that part of the components of the loaded round is a .030 HDPE wad.
It seems all the talk is LDPE, was wondering the difference, & the why's
Be a fool in changing what the original chef has already mastered on this rifle
I do put the wads in the same way, wider side to the bullet base, I use the marker deal, makes it slick as to getting them facing the same way