scope question.

[art ruggiero]

before i would buy that leatherwood i would buy the b5 mva for $75 more art

[Kurt]

Art, I have a MVA B-5 scope. This one is more appealing too me more

[Jimhp02]

Mdeland, I have a scope just like yours. The scope itself is pretty good but the mount is crap. And, unfortunately I cannot find a really good mount to fit the scope because the tube is round without a pope groove. I am thinking of replacing it with a scope and mount from MVA. An MVA scope that is full length on my 30 inch barrel would fit without further modification. A shorter scope, which many might find preferable, would require my barrel to be drilled and tapped and I don’t know, particularly given these times, if I could find a shop open to do it, even if I wanted to.
Does anyone have experience with the shorter scopes which slide back and forth versus the longer full length scopes? I would love to hear anyone’s thoughts before I proceed further.

Jim

[SSShooter]

Art, I have a MVA B-5 scope. This one is more appealing too me more

Another B5 user. Went from a 6X 23" MVA to the B5 and prefer the B5. You cannot go wrong with either.
If you shoot much off-hand you may find the long scope a detriment. Puts a lot of weight out there in the wind.

[22Ballard]

BPCR, I’m not sure I understand your question; are looking for a BPCR legal scope or for general shooting?

[Kurt]

Mike,

I'm forced to switching to the scope. That Leatherwood I been looking at them and I know that they are not NRA legal but that don't matter to me because I can use it here and the Gong shoots. Those mounts look like unertl, how much adjustment vertical does their scale have marked?

22Ballard.
I said that I don't care if it's NRA legal. I was interested about the rear mount's elevation. If it had as much rear elevation as the DZ rear mount gad I intended just ordering their rear mount and pitch the MVA Silhouette and Creedmoor mounts. I have to go to a scope because I just cant see the tangs and when my eyes were still good I shot better using the tang sights than a scope. The hash marks on the MVA I cant see unless I hang a magnifying glass around my neck and at times use a flashlight when shooting under a covered line when it's overcast to make a sight change.
The Lyman or Unertl mounts do not have enough elevation to reach the 1000 yard unless you use extended blocks and then you loose the chicken line. So it's either the DZ or someone else's rear mount for my use.

I have the B-5, the 3000 series the 23" A scope as well as the DZ scope and there are issues I have with all four scopes and I don't need another NRA legal scope I have enough for those matches. I don't want to get into what I don't like about them.

[22Ballard]

The DZ mounts are a great option for other 3/4” scopes. They are repeatable, the white on black hashmarks are easy to see and very precise. At one time I had two 28” MVA scopes with DZ mounts. I wanted more magnification so I switched to Dan’s scopes. You can’t go wrong with his mounts.

[bpcr shooter]

guess there was more to getting a scope than I thought!! I do shoot the spring matches up to Lodi so I guess I need to be NRA compliant for that, dad really likes going to the "Q" so I do shoot there, I would like to shoot some silhouette at some point, other than just for fun. Basically I just shoot for fun because I like these old rifles, and the BP they burn. Im not a die hard match guy, but shooting with others who enjoy shooting BP guns has always made me smile. If I go with the MVA are there mounts any good?? my gun will be a LRE, 34in in 45-100.

Thanks all........ Matt

[charlie young]

Kurt, do you have MVA knobs on your scopes. Once I get to the line I never look at the hash marks, I just use the reference numbers on the knobs. Just put the newer style on one scope and both tang sights.

Charlie

[Kurt]

Yes I do Charlie on the New 23" A scope But there is about 1/3 turn back lash and taking up that back lash and then loosing the lock cam many times I over adjust. I got to the point were I just hold off and leave everything tight.
I'm going to see if I can tighten the backlash.
But down the road I will put the unertl type mounts on them and be done with it.

[charlie young]

Kurt, I understand about the back lash. I never set my sight settings coming down. I will always drop farther down than the reading and then come back up. I was shooting at 900 yds. this evening with a new 23" hoping maybe the slack wouldn't be as bad, but not so. If I have to come down while on target, I will move down almost a full turn and then come back to my desired elevation change, worked perfect, I do the same with Soule sights. You probably do the same. Interesting about this 45-110. I've heard guys say they have a gun that doesn't lead, and I always called BS. Well so far this rifle in the 200+ rounds I've put through it has absolutely none. Will be interesting to see what happens when we get some heat. Fairly accurate as well.

Charlie

[art ruggiero]

remember if you choose the full length scope mounted in the dove tails your total moa will be cut in half due to the mount spacing art

[CaptnJack]

Mike,

I'm forced to switching to the scope. That Leatherwood I been looking at them and I know that they are not NRA legal but that don't matter to me because I can use it here and the Gong shoots. Those mounts look like unertl, how much adjustment vertical does their scale have marked?

Kurt. Why is the leatherwood scope not NRA legal?

[Kurt]

Mike,

I'm forced to switching to the scope. That Leatherwood I been looking at them and I know that they are not NRA legal but that don't matter to me because I can use it here and the Gong shoots. Those mounts look like unertl, how much adjustment vertical does their scale have marked?

Kurt. Why is the leatherwood scope not NRA legal?

Jack,
The objective lens is 31mm.....1.22".
I'm going to order one. With that 4.2 mm exit pupil, it's about what my eyes at my age will open so it should be plenty bright.

[mdeland]

Yeah, I'm thinking I may have to investigate what the first mounts were, for these long scopes using external adjustments. Seem like it has good quality optics but could be more trouble than it's worth.
I think the sliding scopes with rails were made necessary for keeping the delicate cross hairs from breaking in recoil from big bore calibers in original designs. Not sure if this scope has an actual suspended cross hair or if it is etched on a lens as are modern scopes.
I don't see why the same size scope tube could not be mounted in a good quality Unertyl type mounts used with the ribbed tubes, and perhaps a few modifications.