jackrabbit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:30 am
Do you want a gun to show off and impress all your buddies, or do you want one to actually use to go to matches, hunt with, shoot lots and have fun with? If it's the former, order the Quigley in 45-110, if it's the latter, order a long range express or rough rider in 45-70 or 45-90.
The truth, Cody
and if you get the 45-70 or 45-90, and your buddies are not impressed, find new buddies.
KA
"keep adding powder til it bloodies your nose and blacks your eyes, then back it off bout 5 grains."
If you ever plan to compete in silhouette the 34 inch heavy oct. will not make weight. The Quigley is a super cool rifle and I'd love to have one to play with. BUT if you plan on hunting with it or competing it's not the best option available. The question of 45-70 vs 45-110? Well the 45-70 is much cheaper to feed with abundance of available brass and if you intend to use smokeless powder it is the only reasonable choice between the two. If your only going to use black powder then your just going to need more of it per shot. Bullet choice is no different. 45-110 aka 45 2 7/8 brass is harder to find but with the right amount of money nothing is impossible.
Now sir the choice is yours to make and enjoy.
An idea came to mind first time order what you really want. Then when you get it then order a second that you will really use for all you want to do.
The powder thing with the 110 is a big consideration. For the most part in the 2 110's I have you well get 70 or a bit fewer rounds per pound, contrast that with 100 per pound in the 45-70's. So if you shoot the 110 much the UPS guy is going to be busy carrying in cases of 1f powder.
But as others have said, if a Quigley 110 is where your heart is then by all means go for it. There was a listing on Guns International a while back on JBA cases brand new at a decent price.
Thank you everyone for all the information it is greatly appreciated. I am kind of set on having the Quigley style rifle. just had a hard time trying to figure out whether to use 45-70or 45-110 due to the pros and cons of each
Thank you!
It will come down to your use for the rifle. If you are buying it just for fun, and want to shoot sitting down with cross sticks you will enjoy it as a .45-110. For pretty much any other purpose, or shooting position, you'll end up ordering a completely different rifle anyway.
I have one in the 45/70. It's fun to plink with but like everyone says it's really not a hunting rifle unless your in a stand somewhere. Not that the caliber wont do it . That said I have a shorter Sharps in 45/70 to hunt with . It will take anything I could hunt on this earth. BUT, being addicted to Shiloh Sharps rifles, I ordered a 45/110 built as a hunting rifle in a #3 sporter from Bill Goodman in January and it is my understanding that it is under production and getting closer every day . And yes the brass is very hard to find and spendy. Norma 2.9 runs about $3.50 per case + - and I was able to find 150 pc total in 2 different places.
I bought both. C.Sharps 45-70 and 45-110 back in 1995-96 both with the std. stock, and both with 34" barrels. it took almost 4 years to get both back then. The 45-110 just case-harden, 45-70 with French gray with the silver nose cap. I have never shot the 45-110 yet, hopefully, this summer if all goes well.
25 years a looking at a gun before you shoot it? Damn Jack ,my Shiloh 45 110 didn't last 25 minutes before I de virginized it up on the BLM up the mountain behind Shiloh.I went with loaded ammo to pick it up. Maybe it's just me, I buy guns to shoot not just " it's just for looking at" bobw
No Bob it's not just you
Every Shiloh I have I would not then ship it I drove the 18 hrs to pick then up and on as soon as I walked out of the door I stopped 35 minutes down the road at their range and baptized it
The reason a dog has so many friends is because he wags his tail instead of his tongue.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"Winston Churchill
You fellas would probably have a coronary if you knew the percentage of Shilohs that never get fired. I know of several that were bought new back in the 90's and their owners have never fired them. Then when you add all of them out there that have only been fired a few times, it is really amazing. Damn shame really. To each their own, but I say get out there and shoot them!
Except the last two years I go through 4 to 5 cases plus a year shooting my Shiloh's and I have not wore them out yet. Broke a couple firing pins and a lever spring but I just cant get them wore out. They are like the Rabbit for the everlasting battery they just keep on going
The reason a dog has so many friends is because he wags his tail instead of his tongue.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"Winston Churchill
The first Shiloh I bought was from an estate. The guy had 5 of them new in the box and passed away. They were being sold for the list price of a standard model and most had semi fancy wood and other upgrades. I got a bargain. What a shame he never got to enjoy them for what they were made, perhaps he just enjoyed looking at them.
"Perfection consists not so much in doing extraordinary things as in doing ordinary things extraordinarily well"
No rifle I own feels like a Shiloh Sharps in my hands. We are blessed to have such a company as Shiloh . Those B prefix rifle are going to be something to behold in a 100 years, they have exceeded anything the original Sharps company had done years ago.
jackrabbit wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:11 am
You fellas would probably have a coronary if you knew the percentage of Shilohs that never get fired. I know of several that were bought new back in the 90's and their owners have never fired them. Then when you add all of them out there that have only been fired a few times, it is really amazing. Damn shame really. To each their own, but I say get out there and shoot them!
CaptnJack wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:47 pm
I bought both. C.Sharps 45-70 and 45-110 back in 1995-96 both with the std. stock, and both with 34" barrels. it took almost 4 years to get both back then. The 45-110 just case-harden, 45-70 with French gray with the silver nose cap. I have never shot the 45-110 yet, hopefully, this summer if all goes well.
My problem was too many hobbies such as cars and fishing and raising 4 kids on my own. A full-time job including most weekends, a farm to take care of. Retired, so decided it was time. The only trouble I had to buy a scope because I can't see the sights that well anymore. LOL.
. And yes the brass is very hard to find and spendy. Norma 2.9 runs about $3.50 per case + - and I was able to find 150 pc total in 2 different places.
