dble set trigger needed for silhouette?

[Pink Panther]

The #2 Creedmoor silhouette rifle has all I want but no dble set trigger. Is that a deal breaker for silhouette? Would it be better to get a rifle that had one?

[George Babits]

If I remember right, a true "Creedmoor," according to the original rules, has a single trigger. Put a set trigger on it and it is no longer a "Creedmoor." If you think you "must" have a set trigger, maybe get a Hartford model. There was also a weight limit in the original rules. I think that was 9 pounds, so if you are going to a heavy caliber for silhouette, you need to consider that too.

George

[whoop-up country]

Pink Panther,

It is up to you if you prefer a dble set trigger or not.
The single trigger is supposed to be very good, and some say they prefer it once they are used to it.
If you like the #2 Creedmoor Silhouette rifle, and you would like a double set trigger in a rifle that is virtually the same, you could do as I did and order a Montana Roughrider with all the same features as the #2 Creedmoor.
I ordered my Roughrider with all the features of the #2 with the addition of the Traditional Steel Buttplate and Custom Bedding (current price would be
$3241). Current price of the #2 without those additions is $3201, and with those additions is $3347.
On my Roughrider, I also added (10 years ago, hand select wood for $50) which allows you to specify what type of wood features you would like. They can help you with this, but you get REALLY NICE WOOD for that feature.
So basically I have a #2 Creedmoor Silhouette rifle with a double set trigger for roughly the same price.
When I called in the order they said " so you are making a #2 with double triggers" to which I agreed.
Just an Idea, I really like mine

Bob

[jackrabbit]

You probably don't really "need" air conditioning in your car either, but dang is it nice. Personally, I want a 3/4 pound or less trigger and it is hard to get that without going to a set trigger. If you practice enough, you can get used to anything, so it is really just personal preference, but if it were me and I were ordering a new rifle, I would order one with a set trigger.
Hope this helps, Cody

[Tomklinger]

Pink Panther,
I prefer a direct trigger. Get one correctly adjusted and they are quicker than any set trigger. Plus you have a lot less parts...learn how to hold your rifle correctly when you squeeze off your shot and a set trigger is of little value...
I.M.O.
Tom klinger

[Kurt]

The #2 Creedmoor silhouette rifle has all I want but no dble set trigger. Is that a deal breaker for silhouette? Would it be better to get a rifle that had one?

I have a #2 Creedmoor Silhouette rifle with wood that looks just like the picture on the shiloh site and mine has a double set trigger.
You get one build and I will swap you for yours with a single trigger
If you have short fingers the #2 single trigger the pistol grip is closer to the trigger and it feels a lot better than a #1.
I'm taking mine back to Shiloh next June during the Baker and Quigley matches and have the single put back in.

[martinibelgian]

I'll go with a good single trigger any time, with the emphasis on 'good'. If it is light and crisp, I most certainly won't feel handicapped when comparing to a set trigger.

[jackrabbit]

So, if you dig back through the records of who won the National BPCR Silhouette matches, the vast majority are using set triggers. At our matches, the best shooters all use set triggers. Texasmac recently did some analyzation of his scores, and that analysis seem to show the set trigger was an advantage. You want a set trigger.

[Don McDowell]

The #2 Creedmoor silhouette rifle has all I want but no dble set trigger. Is that a deal breaker for silhouette? Would it be better to get a rifle that had one?

Short answer no.
A good single trigger will shoot to the same level of accuracy as a set trigger. If you're heart is set the #2 Creedmoor then go for it.

[Kurt]

The #2 Creedmoor silhouette rifle has all I want but no dble set trigger. Is that a deal breaker for silhouette? Would it be better to get a rifle that had one?

Talk to Kirk about a single trigger.
When I ordered my #2 it came with the single trigger and Kirk tuned it down to a 2 lb pull after I had it for a while but I felt I needed a softer trigger so I had him inlay a double in the existing trigger bar and it did the job very well but it was not the magic that some thing that a set trigger shoots better than a single at 2# or even 3# pull. I cant see any difference anyway.
But I'm used shooting military matches that exceeds the set trigger pull

[Kurt]

Here is the set inlay. Kirk did a fine job and even matched the case color pattern very close.
He also burned up a couple end mills cutting the trigger bar for the inlay.

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The top is a #1 spotter and the lower is the #2. Notice the difference between the triggers and stock. The set inlay did move the front trigger forward slightly over the original but it's still closer to the pistol grip.

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[martinibelgian]

So, if you dig back through the records of who won the National BPCR Silhouette matches, the vast majority are using set triggers. At our matches, the best shooters all use set triggers. Texasmac recently did some analyzation of his scores, and that analysis seem to show the set trigger was an advantage. You want a set trigger.

Yup, just like someone on the ASSRA forum once did an accuracy test between set and direct triggers, and found that single triggers were more accurrate due to shorter lock time and less moving parts. Just like saying that the 45-70 is the best cartridge because the top shooters are using it. Well, the bottom shooters are also shooting it, doet that make it the worst cartridge too? It's the indian, not the arrow...

[BFD]

So, if you dig back through the records of who won the National BPCR Silhouette matches, the vast majority are using set triggers. At our matches, the best shooters all use set triggers. Texasmac recently did some analyzation of his scores, and that analysis seem to show the set trigger was an advantage. You want a set trigger.

That would have been the late, great Joe Harz (aka JDSteel). He sent me his targets to analyze and, in fact, quite the opposite was actually indicated. So, take that argument with a larger than usual lump of salt.

[BFD]

So, if you dig back through the records of who won the National BPCR Silhouette matches, the vast majority are using set triggers. At our matches, the best shooters all use set triggers. Texasmac recently did some analyzation of his scores, and that analysis seem to show the set trigger was an advantage. You want a set trigger.

That would have been the late, great Joe Harz (aka JDSteel). He sent me his targets to analyze and, in fact, quite the opposite was actually indicated. So, take that argument with a larger than usual lump of salt.

[VectorMan]

Is that a deal breaker for silhouette?

The quick answer is no, it’s not a deal breaker.
I own 6 BPC rifles and 4 of them have double sets, 1 has a single set and 1 is my Browning with no set at all. The rifle most accurate for me is my Browning, but I’m sure it’s not my most accurate rifle. The reason it’s so accurate for me is I’ve shot it a lot more than all the others.

Rifles are like people, each one has its own attitude and disposition. The more you are around them and get to know them, the more you know their attitude and disposition. The attitude is how they handle different situations they are put in. Example of that is how they handle different bullet designs, different powder, different conditions so on and so on. Each one reacts differently and you learn.
The disposition is just how they are made. Some triggers break a certain way, they load a certain way, they clean a certain way, so on and so on. You learn how they are.
Get what you want and shoot it a lot. If you have skills, and put the time in, the rifle will become accurate no matter what the trigger is.
With that being said, if I put more trigger time in one of my rifles with a set trigger or double set, I’m sure eventually they will produce better scores than my Browning, especially at the offhand shooting.
This is only my opinion so it’s worth about a buck fifty.