dble set trigger needed for silhouette?

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BFD
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What he said, but he is high priced at a buck-fifty.... I'm a steadfast $0.02 :)
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Jeanne won't shoot without a set trigger and has set triggers on both of her 40-65 rifles. . I have shot duty type guns with heavy triggers for over 40 years and I prefer a 2 to 3 pound trigger. I shot Jeanne's set trigger rifle one day and it's too light for me. Whatever someone is accustomed to and shoots best is what they should use. It's good to have choices.
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Why are there so few single triggers at any of the matches?
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Why ? "The double set triggers "LOOK NEAT" and Quigley used one
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I have always wondered why so FEW have set triggers in lever gun and high power silhouette.
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I have only seen set triggers on OLD Winchester lever actions. Some of the rules in the scope sports call for a trigger weight minimum. Most of the High power Silhouette shooters use a hunter gun in both classes and I think the min trigger weight is 2 pounds and the rifle weight is 9...and ALL of the targets are shot standing out to 500 meters.
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Re: dble set trigger needed for silhouette?

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I will tell you what the problem is for me using a set trigger especially shooting off hand.
For some reason when it's tine to break the shot my trigger finger just won't move. I know that it's mental with the fear putting pressure on the trigger too soon. I see this even happen here at home shooting on out local range or in the yard here at home and I been trying to get over this.
guess I have had to many go down range before I wanted them to go.
I don't have this problem shooting my none set trigger rifles.
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It's still hard to get around the fact that the time between the break of the trigger and the firing pin hitting the primer is longer with a set trigger - there is much more going on internally. Now, if you can hold perfectly steady for that extra time, go for a set trigger. Of course, there may be a time when the set trigger gets a light touch unintentionally when not on the target and, well, that's a miss.
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My 14 year old daughter shoots a single trigger creedmoore for silhouette
she does just fine.
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How about using a stop watch and tell us the difference in the time it takes for the firing pin to hit the primer between a set trigger and a single trigger and report back.
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It takes more than a stopwatch to measure but because you are pulling a trigger that in turn essentially releases another trigger it does take longer for the firing pin to get the message. More time allows more movement. Now if you are a human bench rest like Cody it may not matter;-) I can't find it now but there were scientific timing tests on the difference somewhere. Anyone know where they got to?
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cw50-70 wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:49 am It takes more than a stopwatch to measure but because you are pulling a trigger that in turn essentially releases another trigger it does take longer for the firing pin to get the message. More time allows more movement. Now if you are a human bench rest like Cody it may not matter;-) I can't find it now but there were scientific timing tests on the difference somewhere. Anyone know where they got to?
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I think this is going to be a long winter :lol: :lol:
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Re: dble set trigger needed for silhouette?

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One can argue the pros and cons of a set trigger vs. a standard trigger until one turns “blue in the face”. More than anything it depends on the shooter & what he/she is comfortable with. As I reported in an earlier posting on this subject, by analyzing my scores over many matches with a modified standard trigger and a set trigger, I’ve proven to myself that a set trigger gives me a slight advantage on the chickens, and only the chickens.

BTW, by "modified" I mean a standard trigger with a sear that breaks cleanly with no creep at 2lbs or less, preferably around 1.5lbs. I also feel that when a standard trigger sear is modified to break approaching 1lb it's getting into dangerous territory. Of course that also depends to some extent on how the sear is modified. I've seen some sear work by so called gunsmiths that need to go back to gunsmithing school.

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Re: dble set trigger needed for silhouette?

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Wayne,

for your comparison to be really valid, it would have to be the same rifle, not 2 different rifles of different make/model.Things like stock fit, overall weight and weight distribution play an important role too. If I take my prone match rifle for offhand work, I'd be hard put to hit anything with it...
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