The tide is turning

[mdeland]

Did you notice the reporter taking pictures that busted in with the initial crowd shown on Flash Point ? Now how would he be there if this was a spontaneous ,no plan, break in ,by a bunch of crazy fanatics incited by Trump, taking pictures and getting evidence that would certainly be used against him.
It could have been Alltmann who was an Antifa infiltrate but wait that would mean he was with Antifa at the break in, no that doesn't work, well then it must have been a real Antifa reporter, no wait that doesn't fit my narrative either .Oh I know, it just happened to be a member of the fake media traveling with Trump supporters after the real story, but wait I didn't see that on the evening news and it most certainly would have been every where if it hurt Trump . Guess were running out of possibilities. Here is the bus link.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.ph ... ce-escorts

[mdeland]

There is another video I saw that showed the four buses being escorted through a barrier into a capitol grounds area that Trump supporters were being kept out of and will post that as well when and if I can find it if it's not already taken down.

[jwml]

Come on man; give it up. Isn’t it about time for this thread to end?

[RK]

Come on man; give it up. Isn’t it about time for this thread to end?

Burying your head in the sand never did anybody any good.

The only regret I have is that I did not go to DC. I was planning on going but Family matters made me decide not to go at the last minute. But I did talk to two trusted people that were at DC and both gave me a description of antifa type people infiltrating through the crowd. The description I got was that these people were deliberately trying to cause Mayham. Of these two people one went to DC to protest, the other was there on business and happen to observe what was going on. The proof to all of this is the complete media fire storm, double standard of what happened in DC compared to what’s been going on all over this country for quite a while.

[RK]

Come on man; give it up. Isn’t it about time for this thread to end?

Burying your head in the sand never did anybody any good.

The only regret I have is that I did not go to DC. I was planning on going but Family matters made me decide not to go at the last minute. But I did talk to two trusted people that were at DC and both gave me a description of antifa type people infiltrating through the crowd. The description I got was that these people were deliberately trying to cause Mayham. Of these two people one went to DC to protest, the other was there on business and happen to observe what was going on. The proof to all of this is the complete media fire storm, double standard of what happened in DC compared to what’s been going on all over this country for quite a while.

[mdeland]

Hey there's no evidence of Antifa involvement, that's your own eyes lying to you there!

[mdeland]

Ray, I did find the video of the buses on Flash Point as well as the link I posted for you that was the same one. I did remember it right after all.
Lance Wallnau , one of the guests on that program, was on the grounds in DC and was eye witness to the Antifa activists storming the Congress building.
It was all a set up just as I told you to make Trump and his supporters look bad! I'm telling you these folks are going to hang on their own gallows for it's over!

[Ray Newman]

RK maybe it is a blessing that you were not there? Otherwise, your face could be on the surveillance footage just because you were there and not doing anything wrong. I agree with you about the double standard in reporting events.

I believe the Roman historian Tacitus wrote the secret of the empire was out. If memory serves me, Tactius wrote the Praetorian Guard (the emperor’s bodyguards and intelligence service) really decided who was to be emperor. Today we do not have the Praetorians, but we have the media. The media rightly or wrongly removed Nixon, tried their best Reagan and G.W. Bush, but the unrelenting Trump attacks was the charm. I fear that the days of reporting what went on without interjecting a bias really are over.

As for your statement about the “ANTIFA types”, I know a guy who claims the same thing about the Portland protestors. According to him, right wing groups, especially the Proud Boys and other unidentified groups infiltrated ANTIFA or show up looking for a fight with ANTIFA or LEO, cause damage, etc. A fellow shooter at the range is on Seattle PD. While talking about political/social demonstrations he said it is unfortunate that such events far too often draw the troublemakers from both sides. A neighbor, a retired from Tacoma PD, told me the same.

Now from personal experience, when I lived in California, I and the local firearms shop owner attended several pro-firearms rallies. I was surprised at how some of the shop’s customers and those I knew from the range acted out and what they yelled.

[Ray Newman]

MDeland: three times I watched the video you linked to of the busloads of supposed ANTIFAs activist escorted by LEO.

As one guy on the video exclaimed: “You got to be F-ing kidding me.”

I saw 3 or 4 four white passenger vans, the then there was quick showing of a LEO phalanx marching through the intersection. I could not see any video images showing the supposed ANTIFA activists. But I did hear the commentator claiming -- and again without any video images – that the people escorted were ANTIFA.

Looking at the links you provided the last day or so reminds me of what I once read about Walter Cronkite. Cannot recall if the story was in the San Francisco Chronicle (morning left leaning paper) or the Examiner (afternoon a bit to the right) after Cronkite’s death or when he was dying. According to the author, at a Colombia University School of Journalism commencement address Cronkite allegedly said: “As journalists we are not necessarily here to report the facts, but to influence public opinion.” And the more I think about it and from what I see and read, there is a very loud ring of truth to the statement and it applies to both sides of the political aisle.

As an aside, I have unsuccessfully tried to determine if Cronkite did say what was attributed to him.

[Griff]

It is with more than a little trepidation that I even comment on this thread...

It is common, when dealing with large groups, for law enforcement to bring in busses for transportation in case they need to make mass arrests. I never saw anyone get off of those busses.

[TAA]

The entities that are collectively working to destroy, change and transform (an Obama expression) America are academia, politicians, big tech and the media.

About the media…a long time ago they were seen as the 4th Estate. They were supposed to report EVERYTHING about Government, all of it without bias or concern as to who is involved. Leaving something out because the reporter disagrees with it, is criminal. There was an editorial page. But to day most of what we get is one long editorial and no reporting.

IF Walter Cronkrite said what is noted above, he was wrong. The media’s job is to honestly inform, not
influence public opinion, except in priorly described editorials.

[George Babits]

I don't think for a minute that Cronkite said that. He was one of the last "news" reporters. That was before the media developed its own propaganda system destined to destroy the country that allows them to say what they want under the first amendment. News is no longer news, just what comes down the wire and they are told to say.

George

[Glen Ring]

And then the baby Jesus spoke to Glen through his thoughts and said " He that soever believeth everything they see on the internet is full the feces of the bull and should leaveth the drink alone until the third day after the sabbath. Glen, be thine apostle and spread the word that thoseth posts on thine internet are from some that bear false witness and are to be ignored. Now goeth forth and tell the masses that even the baby Jesus gets tired of shit like this." Jesus said...Amen/ Awoman.

[mdeland]

Just keep in mind Glen, Torah says every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess he is Lord, he ain't a baby anymore !

[Glen Ring]

And Glen of the desert uttered.." It's just humor dude, chill a little and have a beer." so it shall be said, so it shall be written.