Texas 22BPCRA Championship

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Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Tebbeman » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:45 pm

Welcome one and all to the second annual Texas Championship (formerly known as the Texas Fall Challenge). This is a challenging yet fun match and a great one to introduce someone new to our wonderful sport. This will be an "any sight" match meaning shoot either scope or irons as we are competing head to head no matter which sight. This years match will be held on October 30th and 31st and since it's Halloween, costumes are welcome and encouraged on Sunday. You can copy and print the entry form below.

Texas 22 BPCRA Championship
HOTSA Shooting Club 22 Range
Wortham, Texas October 30th & 31st , 2021

Name_____________________________________ (one name per form)

Street_____________________________________ City___________________ State_____ Zip________

E-mail_________________________________________ Phone _______________________________

1. This is a sanctioned 22BPCRA any sight match consisting of 60 shot daily matches; 120 shot aggregate tournament. There will be a BBQ supper Saturday night after the match which is included with your entry. Additional meals may be purchased for $12.50 each. The WB Cowboy Chuckwagon will be available both days selling hamburgers and such.
2. 22 BPRCA dues are $15.00 per year. Please enclose if you are not currently a member.
3. Match Fees: Adult - $65.00 Junior - FREE (juniors are those 16 yr. old or younger). Single entries only as we expect to max, however we will allow dual entry on the morning of the match if space allows.
4. Amount enclosed, circle all that applies:
a. Adult $65.00
b. Junior (16 and younger) FREE
c. BPCRA Membership $15.00
d. Additional meals @ $12.50 each
d. Total - $_________ Personal check or Bank/Post Office Money Order to David Barnes
4. Entries are limited to 48 competitors and is on the “First Come, First Served” basis; 6 relays max.
5. NRA BPCR or 22BPCRA Classification (Circle one) Grand Master Master AAA AA A
6. Sight (Circle whichever applies) Iron Sight Scope Sight
7. Special Class (Circle those that apply) Junior-16 yo or less; Senior (60-69yo); Super Senior (70+yo); Woman
8. Name of Spotter/ Partner 1. ______________________________
Squad With: 2._________________________________________
3._________________________________________
4._________________________________________
5._________________________________________

Make checks or money orders payable to: David Barnes
Mail entry forms and payment to: David Barnes 182 FM 246, Wortham, TX 76693
Must be postmarked on or before Monday, October 18, 2021
Double entries can be made at the match if space is available.
This is a Halloween match so costumes are acceptable and encouraged 
GOOD SHOOTING!!!
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Tebbeman » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:45 pm

If you have an issue copying and printing the entry form, just email me at Kenny4570@gmail.com and I'll email you the form. See you in October.

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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Glen Ring » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:24 am

Kenny
We are confused on the 2020 pink books. Are they still good for 2021? Or will we need to buy another one/membership for this match ?
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Tebbeman » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:42 am

The pink 2020 books are good for the 2021 shooting year too. Kt
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by TexasMac » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:12 am

Kenny,

The entry form says "This will be an "any sight" match meaning shoot either scope or irons as we are competing head to head no matter which sight." Therefore, am I to understand there will NOT be separate winners for scope and irons? Thanks.

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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Tebbeman » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:46 am

Wayne you are correct. We tan the Showdown match with this format and although a majority of folks shot scope, of the top 5 finishers 4 were iron sights. It was well received so David would like the same format for the HOTSA match. Kt
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by TexasMac » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:41 pm

Tebbeman wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:46 am
Wayne you are correct. We tan the Showdown match with this format and although a majority of folks shot scope, of the top 5 finishers 4 were iron sights. It was well received so David would like the same format for the HOTSA match. Kt
Kenny,

I don't know about the Showdown match but checking the scores from last year's HOTSA match the scope shooters ended up with a clear average advantage of 8 point or animals over the iron shooters. And checking the scores from the Nationals going back several years indicated the average scope scores were 3 to 4 points higher than the iron scores. From my point of view it doesn't make any difference since I'm a scope shooter but consolidating the iron & scope scores will no doubt discourage some iron sight shooters from attending.

I copied and distributed the entry form to all the Yaupon Creek shooters and have already received some negative comments from Iron shooters.

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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by jackrabbit » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:01 pm

I cannot speak for the Texas match, but the fact also remains that the majority of the shooters today are using scopes. Having a full set of awards for only a handful of iron sight shooters is not feasible. The matches here at Smithmoor have been any sight since they began 8 years ago. No one up here has ever complained. For whatever reason, the news of the match being "any sight" is apparently upsetting to some, but after they get used to the idea it is fine.

Comparing scores between the iron sight shooters and the scope shooters is also not a good comparison. If 5 grandmasters shoot scope, and 5 A class guys shoot irons, the average difference in scores could be 17 points. Is it fair to say that the scopes were a large advantage? Of course not.

If some grumbly ol crank wants to stay home and not attend the very best 22 BPCRA match in the country just because they may not get a 3rd place AA class iron sight award, they probably won't be missed because they were going for the wrong reasons anyway. It is rather amazing they have the balls to complain anyway. It is clearly outlined in the match bulletin so there will be no surprises, and the match is made possible completely through huge donations in time and money by a variety of folks. I'm betting whoever is grumbling has never done much to ever put a match on themselves....

The HOTSA match has food that is out of this world, a great range, great weather, and the very best hosts there are. This iron sight shooter will be there and am anxious to give all you guys with cheater tubes a run for your money!
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by TexasMac » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:16 pm

jackrabbit wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:01 pm
I cannot speak for the Texas match, but the fact also remains that the majority of the shooters today are using scopes. Having a full set of awards for only a handful of iron sight shooters is not feasible. The matches here at Smithmoor have been any sight since they began 8 years ago. No one up here has ever complained. For whatever reason, the news of the match being "any sight" is apparently upsetting to some, but after they get used to the idea it is fine.

Comparing scores between the iron sight shooters and the scope shooters is also not a good comparison. If 5 grandmasters shoot scope, and 5 A class guys shoot irons, the average difference in scores could be 17 points. Is it fair to say that the scopes were a large advantage? Of course not.

If some grumbly ol crank wants to stay home and not attend the very best 22 BPCRA match in the country just because they may not get a 3rd place AA class iron sight award, they probably won't be missed because they were going for the wrong reasons anyway. It is rather amazing they have the balls to complain anyway. It is clearly outlined in the match bulletin so there will be no surprises, and the match is made possible completely through huge donations in time and money by a variety of folks. I'm betting whoever is grumbling has never done much to ever put a match on themselves....

The HOTSA match has food that is out of this world, a great range, great weather, and the very best hosts there are. This iron sight shooter will be there and am anxious to give all you guys with cheater tubes a run for your money!
Cody Smith
Nope, I do not agree in the least bit, but then again as I said It's not going to affect me since I'm a scope shooter.
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by jackrabbit » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:32 pm

What don't you agree with?

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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by jackrabbit » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:44 pm

You can find reasons to go, or reasons to stay home, you choose. If someone chooses to stay home because there are not specific prizes for all classes of iron sight shooters, I guarantee it will be their loss.

This is going to be a FANTASTIC match and I can't wait to go!

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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Glen Ring » Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:03 am

Multiple organizations offering multiple shooting opportunities with different rules is a good thing. If someone doesn't like the rules at one match, shoot others.

I still like the aggregate matches for national championships of shooting both iron sights and scope sight.
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Kurt » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:23 am

I personally don't see a scope being an advantage over the tang sights. The only advantage I personally see using the scope is I can now see the target with my deteriorating vision. I just started shooting the silhouette matches these last three years and I will start making more these coming seasons and I tried using both sights, tang and scope and the black silhouette against a dark wet or mineralized soil I cant see the black critters looking through the apertures anymore. Shooting here at home off hand practice shooting a white bowling pin at 200 with a scope I hit less than I do using the tang sights.
The competitors shooting these silhouette matches scope or irons, it's usually the chickens count that puts them on top of the leader board and I'm sure they have just as hard time getting their timing down using irons or the scope knocking the chickens down.
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Kurt » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:32 am

:lol: If you want to level the playing field make every one shoot off sticks sitting using the scope or irons :lol:
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Re: Texas 22BPCRA Championship

Post by Glen Ring » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:10 pm

I have often wondered about matches that announce irons or scope in the match program. If Wayne wanted to shoot everything but chickens with a scope, but pulled off the scope and shot chickens with iron sights...would that be acceptable ?
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