Longer stem for #104 Tang?

fifty-seventy · Post by **fifty-seventy** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:02 pm

Wow, I forgot my password - whew! Much thanks to Lucinda for sending lost screw for my #104 tang. I love this sight - simple and neat and tight! Kirk, I need a longer stem for it. Sure could use one, anyway. Any chance of you making one? Need 5 inches!
Thanks, 50

Post by **Kirk** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:48 am

Sorry, for being late. I don't make a longer staff. The #104 is not the best sight around, most people get it because of the cost, they shoot it a while to find out if this is what they want to do, then they take a look around at all of the sight makers and pick a sight that is workable with long range shooting. I would recommend MVA. Thanks Kirk

fifty-seventy · Post by **fifty-seventy** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:37 am

Thanks, Kirk, for the response. For sure price is one thing, but also the simplicity and authenticity - don't think the early guns had mva's. Boy, you sure have lots of irons in the fire - maybe someone out there can make or machine me a longer staff? I need to be able to hit at the Quigley with a 50-70 using 65 of goex. Maybe I'm dreaming? Thanks ya'all.
50

Ken Hartlein · Post by **Ken Hartlein** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:54 pm

Ron Heilman can probably make you one. r.a.heilman@worldnet.att.net

Alvin Kinsey,Sr. · Post by **Alvin Kinsey,Sr.** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:25 pm

[quote="Kirk"]Sorry, for being late. I don't make a longer staff. The #104 is not the best sight around, most people get it because of the cost, they shoot it a while to find out if this is what they want to do, then they take a look around at all of the sight makers and pick a sight that is workable with long range shooting. I would recommend MVA. Thanks Kirk[/quote]

Kirk,
What is the design range for the #104??
Thanks,
Alvin
Shiloh 1(LRE)

Post by **Kirk** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:30 am

Good morning, The 104 is the same as the fancier mid-range, on a 45-70, it is quite easy to get to 800 yards. Wolfgang, the founder of Shiloh came out with the 104 when their were no sight makers, he was so busy getting the sharps made, that their was no time for making a better sight. It was patterned some what off of an original design though. Do to the fact their are so many people making good sights now, we are going to drop it from our line. It is a good close range hunting sight, but most people find it fun to shoot long range and usually take it off to mount a fine adjustment tang sight, which I try to reccomend in the first place. Hope this helps, Thanks Kirk

fifty-seventy · Post by **fifty-seventy** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:40 am

Thanks, Ya'all;
For info and leads, etc. I found what I think is a the same longer shaft at Axtel-Riflesmith but just the darn shaft is nearly $200! for a long one - just the shaft!. I sort of doubt that the mount or base would fit exactly. I'm not the type to order and try something and then send it back. I can understand what Kirk says about now lots of sight manufacturers, etc. What I like about the one Kirk makes(made) is that it is hand made milled and very tight and smooth, plus looks authentic. My problem is that it is for a 50-70 and on a (sigh) rolling block so most of the shaft is used just getting up to the barrel height. I either got to change the shaft, the gun, or both! I think it is an ideal sight for hunting where you would set it for 200 or 300 yds and just flip it up for game at that distance, using the barrel sights for 100yds and under. When hunting you don't have time to be messing with vernier adjustments anyway. It doesn't have dials and screw things to get clogged like the Soule and adjustable vernier tangs. There's a picture on the Shiloh catalogue under sights. Again, thanks; 50

Scarlet Knight · Post by **Scarlet Knight** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:36 am

If you're looking for a good tang sight for hunting purposes, you might want to have a look at the Lyman tang sights. You may need to have a little bit of drilling & tapping done on your tang, but the sight can be had for under $100. They're orignially designed for winchester lever guns, and are meant to be used exactly as you describe--set for a particular distance, then flipped up for the occasional long-range shot .