2012 Canadian Shiloh Sharps Draw

[SchuetzenDave]

Thank You Kirk and Lucinda:

I am the happy and proud owner of my new 1874 Shiloh Sharps I received yesterday.
I am extremely appreciative of the gift certificate provided by Shiloh Sharps for the rifle in support of the 2012 Canadian Shiloh Sharps BPCR Shoot at Bethune Saskatchewan.
The 1874 Shiloh Sharps is one of those rifles one loves to caress and will be with my family hopefully for generations to come.
Your rifles are of astounding quality and your Company deserves great recognition for the support you provide to the Black Powder shooting sports.

Pictures of my new rifle are on the ASSRA web page:

http://www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB. ... 1380139793


Dave P.

[Steve crawford]

All I can say is !!!WOW!!!

Steve

[Lumpy Grits]

If it only shoots half as well as it looks, you'll have a winner for sure.
Gary

[SchuetzenDave]

I tested my new 1874 Shiloh Sharps with a 410 grain Boomer Money bullet using Swiss FFFg.
She is averaging 1.2 inch 5 shot group sizes at 100 yards.
Should easily shoot 1 MOA if I pay attention to the wind.

Boomer_410_Grain_Money[1].jpg

[Lumpy Grits]

What was you CBS shot location?
NICE shoot'n
Gary

[SchuetzenDave]

First band of the bullet was just starting to engage the rifling.
Money nose diameter of .398.
All base bands .410 on my Boomer bullet.
.650 of the bullet base in the case compressing the 49.7 grains Swiss FFFg 0.168 inches.
All grease grooves in the case.
Using light powder loads and fine powder with Magnum primers to reduce chance of fouling.
Plenty of horespower for silhuoette shooting (550 yards).
Not loading my bullets way out with lots of powder (i.e. for long range shooting).
Also compressing Swiss too much breaks down the powder grains; which I don't think you want to do when you are using FFFg.

[art ruggiero]

dave; what caliber is that rifle? thanks art

[SchuetzenDave]

.40-65 WCF
410 grain Boomer Money bullet
.060 vegetable wad
newspaper wad over primer
49.7 grains Swiss FFFg
COAL 2.889
Starline case
R.P. 9 1/2 M primer

[SchuetzenDave]

Alberta Schuetzen Lube
Targets fired at minus 20 degrees Celsius (minus 4 degrees F.).

[Steve crawford]

Alberta Schuetzen Lube
Targets fired at minus 20 degrees Celsius (minus 4 degrees F.).

How can you get a steady hold in that cold temp?????

Steve

[SchuetzenDave]

How can you get a steady hold in that cold temp?????

We make sure we have at least 8 ounces of trigger pull in the winter.
Anything less and you cannot feel the trigger.
That is why I didn't take time to wait for the wind to settle or come back to the same condition.
Needed to find some group tightener first.

Best part of living in Canada is there are no bears or mosquitos for six months of the year.

[PacRATT]

Dave,
What fouling control are you using in very cold weather?
Winnipeg is -36C/-33F with wind chill of -51C /60F, I would take mosquitoes or bears over this cold.
I just got the word from Shiloh that my daughter’s rifle will be shipped on Monday.
I will be using your load data with the samples you sent me.
Roger

[SchuetzenDave]

What fouling control are you using in very cold weather?

Roger:

To mange fouling I rely on blow tubing, using a lube with proper viscosity for winter shooting, and reducing fouling by using:

- lighter powder loads which produce less fouling
- finer powder which burns completely in the barrel
- magnum primers which help combust unburned powder

And of course by having a barrel of a minimum 30 inches long to complete combustion of black powder within the barrel

Alberta Schuetzen Lube was designed to shoot at minus 40 degrees by increasing the amount of non-wax ingredients and by adding two additional components that improve lubricity at all temperatures.
The developer of the lube does not let me advises what all the ingredients are.

Blow tubing is all that is required for me to maintain the softness of my fouling within my barrel following this approach.
But then I only shoot Silhouette (550 yards) whereas heavier loads etc. may be required to do long range (1000 yard shooting)

Dave

[SchuetzenDave]

I also like to use the thicker .060 vegetable wads.
I believe their stifness helps scrap excess fouling from the sides of the barrel.

Likewise I like to use cast plain base bullets .001 or .002 inches wider than the barrel bore.

A nice tight fitting bullet also helps scrap out excess fouling in addition to preventing gas cutting around the bullet.

As long as I get enough moisture down the tube from blow tubing I can get 100 rounds down the tube without having to clean the barrel.
But only by using bullets with tin alloy only and absolutely NO Antimony in the alloy.

[SchuetzenDave]

On the weekend I used the 1874 Shiloh Sharps for the first time in a competition.

I won my event with a 45 score.

The rifle was extremely good at maintining it's elevation.
I (the shooter) had problems with the Rams with winds of 13 to 14 mph with gusts up to 28 mph.

First time I shot her offhand. Took a while to figure out balance and follow through but still got 5 chickens.

To find sight settings I shot 60 rounds without cleaning. Not a speck of lead and only light fouling. I only blowed the barrel.

Rifle works great. Just have to fine tune the shooter now.

THX Again Shiloh for the rifle.

Kirk I will be bringing her to the 2014 Canadian Shiloh Invitational.