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DaveS
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old reliable 5070

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Hi my name is Dave in oklahoma my dad left me a Shiloh arms rifle old reliable 5070 I don't know anything about it and I've got 20 rounds of brass empty shells id like to know how to load it and try to shoot it sometims

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First a question: do want to load with black powder or smokeless powder, lead or jacketed bullets?
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I think Pyrodex in LED
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I personally have found a great deal of satisfaction loading the old calibers (I have a 50-90 and a 45-110) with black powder and cast bullets and shooting them. I have no desire to make a black powder gun into a smokeless gun - I have smokeless guns already. But it is always up to each shooter to do what he enjoys. Don't be intimidated by a new way to shoot -a book that helped me tremendously to understand the old buffalo guns, how to shoot and clean them, and gave me good initial loading data to use for black powder was Mike Venturino's book "Shooting Buffalo Rifles of the Old West". Mike talks about the history to each caliber and rifle, your 50-70 is included. And he gives specific data as to what components - bullet weight, type powder, primers, etc he uses in his BPCRs to get started with good results. Again your 50-70 is in there. I read this book several times and it greatly helped weed out the blogs where people just spout a bunch of BS about loading and the blogs where you can actually find some sensible and accurate help for your reloading. You can order it on Amazon or get it through other places - I think Shiloh might have it or Buffalo Arms. Shiloh and Buffalo Arms are excellent places to look for black powder reloading supplies, etc. Black powder reloading sounds intimidating when you first look at it - but as you actually try it it is not hard and very satisfying. Have fun shooting that old boy. Fogman
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Another alternative is if you just want to fire the rifle and aren't sure you want to invest in setting up to load for it, you can buy a box of black powder 50-70 already loaded at Buffalo Arms. When I first started, I bought a couple of boxes and I used them as a "control load" to see how my loads stacked up - same shooter, same day, same rifle, pre-loaded vs my handloads. Mine did pretty good. Fogman

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Thanks I'll look that up i have head this rifle on by wall and now i thank its time to try out dads rifel . do you nead special tools to load the cartridges
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Dave, it might not take special tools to load, but only if your brass doesn't need sizing.

where do you live? Perhaps someone is close by that could help. I would REALLY hate to see you put pyrodex through it.
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Sent you a PM DaveS.
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Midway carries three different brands of 50-70 dies, Lyman being the cheapest at $45.49. The dies are standard thread so they fit just about any reloading set up you already may have. You can make a drop tube - just remember that whatever else you carry over from smokeless reloading needs to be static electricity free for black powder use; i.e. powder measure, scale, etc. Mike Venturino's book took me the rest of the way. There is something satisfying about touching off one of these rifles with a BP load in it - especially when your groups at 100yds through the tang sight are as good as some of those sighting in their smokeless elk guns with 9 power scopes! I would recommend a Galazan Gamekeeper slip-on recoil pad to fit the stock when you shoot - it will be much more comfortable. I got a medium that fits all my Sharps rifles for $38 and they are dark leather and look good too. http://www.csmcspecials.com/Gamekeeper_ ... p/slip.htm. Not trying to sell anything here but just want to help you enjoy shooting that old boy.
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Post some photos please, DaveS. The old Shilohs are interesting. :wink:
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