Murphy's law ... lol ...

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Etienne Brule
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Murphy's law ... lol ...

Post by Etienne Brule » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:42 pm

Hi

I just want to tell you about a traumatic personal experience with my Sharps ....

Please do not shoot the messenger ...

Last automn, while at my practice range at the military base near Quebec, I bring my 45-90 Shiloh Sharps at the 600 yards firing line ready to shoot the score of my whole life...

Then, before my first shot, I had a problem to lower the breechplug. I could not lower it more than 1/4 inch... ?!?!? After a few tries and some anxiety, I succedded ...

My first thought was to think of the firing pin ... or some weird problems ... The firing pin was OK

The same thing happened a few times since then, while in practice time.... What would I do at the Canadian BP Championships if the same thing happen and it would not lower ? What was the .. %?$%? ... problem .... ? ? ?

Look at the video o the f... problem: ( I was getting better at english language ... lol ... but I will not tell the french f... words...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00t6tl ... e=youtu.be

I made google searches ... PM to some Shiloh forum members ... and the problem still happened ...

One day, while cleaning the breach plug ( which I do only once a year ) I wonder if the problem would not be the firing pin plate.

This plate seemed to be sliding a little bit over the firing pin block !!!!

Thus this block could not clear the breech block face: so the breech block could not be lowered !!!

Was it the problem ??

I pushed the plate and everything was OK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO2sFGaLvXo


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Unbelievable !!


Now, the day before a tournament, I can sleep in peace!

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Post by johnl » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:54 pm

Hey I was just in Quebec City last week. My 80 year old dad has a 77 year old French girlfriend. Nice family. She lives in Beauport near the falls. Didn’t go to the festival though I could hear it from the house. I like Île d'Orléans. Nice countryside. Little humid compared to Vancouver Island. Anyway your videos don’t work. Also any issues with your gun, call Shiloh, best customer service bar none.

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Post by Etienne Brule » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:04 am

Videos are now OK ! Sorry...

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Post by powderburner » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:15 am

Is your plate real loose? It isnt supposed to be.
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Post by Etienne Brule » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:30 am

powderburner wrote:Is your plate real loose? It isnt supposed to be.
The plate became loose with the years … I never noticed that until I was not able to lower the breech block … without knowing that the plate was the problem !

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Post by Lumpy Grits » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:49 pm

Easy to lightly bend the plate, for a more positive friction fit.
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Post by Etienne Brule » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:49 am

Thank you everybody.

As suggested, by members and Kirk, I slightly bent the plate and the problem is solved.

I must admit that the solution was much easier than the "Diagnosis" !!! lol

Intermittent problem of a jammed breech block ! Once in a while only, which temporarily corrects itself with some 5-6 lowerings of the lever, without knowing what the problem was and when it will be jammed again …


I will feel better the night before a competition ……

Thanks

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