Forearm/Barrel bedding

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by DeadEye » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:04 pm

BW,

Your choice of course but I shoot about 3000 rounds a year and I cannot remember the last time I broke a firing pin. Maybe 6-8 years ago. I always have two spares with me in my shooting box along with a lever spring, a main spring and a transfer block. Changing a pin in the field is not likely and the need to remove your butt plate seems impractical to me.

Tear down process: secure the rifle in a gun vise, close the block, depress ball retainer and rotate lever pin about 90 degrees clockwise, squeeze up on lever at pivot point to remove some tension, pull lever pin out and catch block and extractor in your hand as it falls out. To access the firing pin depress the transfer bar and using a nylon drift remove the retainer plate from the back of the block. At this point the firing pin and spring are released along with the transfer bar. Reverse process to reassemble. I tear down about three times a season and mine runs May to October.

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by DAVE ROELLE » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:04 pm

Remember the firing pin return spring and a spare lever return spring
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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by Barnwood » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:22 pm

Thanks Paul, but you didn't say in what position the hammer is when doing these things. I'm sure you have a system that works for you, but I would like to have the owners manual. Can anybody with a scanner make a PDF and post it or send it by PM? Thanks.

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by DeadEye » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:30 pm

The hammer is in the half-cock position for this. The reason this method works for me and others is because I got it from the owners manual.

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by Barnwood » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:01 pm

I officially give up. Thank you Paul for transcribing word for word the entire owners manual for me. I didn't realize it was so short. Please disregard my unreasonable request. I humbly withdraw.

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by DeadEye » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:55 am

Oh Barnwood,

You're way too easy, you can't give up so soon. You don't know how close to the truth you are. When I first read it I remember the words of that old Peggy Lee song came to mind, "is that all there is?" And then I realized that was enough. Then I put it in a safe place never to be seen again. Well at least since 2004 but for you I will see if I can find it.

Now going back to your original post and the Quigley. I've been doing that since 2006. This year was an exceptional year and only about 500 stayed to shoot it so let's go back to 2017, my best year. There were 642 shooters last year. I would estimate that out of that number maybe 500 only shoot once a year, only bought the gun last month, are shooting store bought ammo, saw a movie and decided that's the way you do it. I once heard a fella say he paid more for his Mule Ear boots from Dave than he paid for his gun. Now I am not going to put much stock in where that man places his gun on his cross sticks. It's the other 150 or so you should be watching and trying to emulate. They will be your winners and to a person they will be putting the barrel on the sticks some where. Some like it just ahead of the forearm but most like it about 6" from the muzzle. I said last year was my best year, if you go to the website ( quigleymatch,com ) and scroll down the home page past this year and then just under old smiling Dave is the picture of the Top 10 for 2017. I am the guy in the back row at the right end. I was tied for 5th out of 642 shooters. I was also 1st White Buffalo out of 79 guys over 72. I have also been International Champion 4 times now so I'm going to go way out on this limb and say I know what I'm doing.

Now let me go see if I can find that manual and if I get it right maybe Lucinda could make a 'sticky' of it for future generations. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by Kurt » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:43 am

NOOOO-NO Paul....Spot knows what she is doing...... :D :D :D
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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by DeadEye » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:54 am

Kurt,

Now you've done it. You just cost me some new boots or a new hat after she sees that.

I thought you were heading our way in September for some shooting, What happened?

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by DeadEye » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:10 am

Barnwood,

Found it !! If you will PM me your email address I will send it to you. I tried .pdf but this software won't accept attachments with that file extension. So I re-scanned it in .jpg but now the files are too large to attach.

Anybody else wanting it let me know and PM me with your email.

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by Kurt » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:02 am

Paul all of my Sept and Oct shoots went down the tube except one at Cadillac. I bought a new Gypsy wagon and it needed some factory warranty work that should have been caught at the factory before it went to the dealership. It's still in my plans to make it up there next year.

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by Kurt » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:09 am

By the way: I found my factory letter under the foam in the hard case about a year later :lol:
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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by Lumpy Grits » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:04 pm

Think'n the OP has run off............. :roll:
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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by DeadEye » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:03 am

Seems to be the case Lumpy,

And after going to the trouble of finding it and then scanning it guess who hasn't sent me a PM. A few others have but not Barnwood. I suspect he may have had one of his friends ask me for it. Wait, that assumes a guy like that has a friend. :roll: :roll:

Anybody else want the manual send me a PM with your email and I'll send it to you. 6 pages in picture format (.jpg)

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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by Lumpy Grits » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:35 pm

I'll bet he doesn't return either. :lol:
Didn't much care for his condescending tone/remarks. :roll:
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Re: Forearm/Barrel bedding

Post by gmkmd » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:02 pm

I think a basic principle is being overlooked here, and misunderstood by the person who asked about bedding and referred to the bedding of Garands and Sakos and etc.
There is a big difference between bedding a rifle with a one-piece stock (such as most bolt-action rifles, and some semi-autos), and a rifle with a two-piece stock (like most single-shot rifles).
In the former, the point is to securely anchor the action to the stock, so that the barrel is free-floating in the forearm, hence holding or resting on the forearm should not exert any force on the barrel.
In the latter, the forearm is attached to the barrel itself, and bedding of the forearm improves its bond to the barrel, making them one, hence it doesn't matter whether you rest the barrel or the forearm on your cross-sticks.
One exception to this is the Browning BPCR, which has a rigid rail that is attached to the receiver and projects under the barrel, and the forearm attaches to this rail instead of the barrel itself. So the barrel is free-floating even though it has a two-piece stock.

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