Groove diameter paper patch

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patchbox
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Re: Groove diameter paper patch

Post by patchbox » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:29 am

I can seat the 3 wrap bullet with a thumb push but the 4 wrap bullet requires the use of the cartridge seating tool.

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Re: Groove diameter paper patch

Post by patchbox » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:30 am

I can seat the 3 wrap bullet with a thumb push but the 4 wrap bullet requires the use of the cartridge seating tool.

ian45662
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Re: Groove diameter paper patch

Post by ian45662 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:55 pm

Cool beans. I might have to give that a try

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Re: Groove diameter paper patch

Post by patchbox » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:28 pm

Yes, it allowed me to use the same diameter bullet for both bore diameter and bore diameter plus. My Shilo 45-70 shoots the best groups with bullet I’m using with about 72 gns of O.E. - any more powder than that and group size starts to open up. With my bore diameter PPB’s seated into the cartridge about 1/8” I could not get enough compression without using more wads or a filler - I didn’t want to do that so this allows me to seat bullet farther into the case than with the slightly under bore diameter load. I would like to to try a larger diameter bullet, say in the .447” range and seat to same depth as the 3 & 4 wrap loads but just use the standard 2 wrap method. That’s what I like about this sport - never a lack of variations to try and experiment with.

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Re: Groove diameter paper patch

Post by Kenny Wasserburger » Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:04 am

Consider the fact your paper will not be cut through with that much thickness of paper vrs rifling depth,

Giving uneven bullet upset. :shock: try that at 800-900-1000 yards

Fat bullet thin paper…..anyone tells you otherwise is full of it.

Just saying.

KW
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patchbox
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Re: Groove diameter paper patch

Post by patchbox » Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:39 am

Yeah,
You’re right - I need to go with a larger diameter bullet and stick with 2 wraps of thinner paper.

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