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SchuetzenDave
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Re: compression?

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I tested compressing Swiss FFFg in my .40-65 trying to increase speed since I had no free bore in my rifle and could not extend my bullets.

I had good results from just filled case volume up to .230" compression.

Group sizes started to get larger when I compressed more than .230" with Swiss FFFg in my Starline cases.
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Br2 pretty much suck in my 45-110,

I will stick to the old WLRs, I have about 25,000 of them. Sealed in 20MM ammo cans.


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I tried Swiss 3Fg in my 40-65 because others were using it even in 45-70/90. I had the same good accuracy with it as the 1.5Fg I was using before, however the 3Fg was burning a lot hotter and the fouling was drying out and getting hard during matches during hot days (I wipe with a wet patch). I have since switched back to 1.5Fg and even on very hot days the fouling is manageable (I heavily compressed both powder types to ~0.300").
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Re: compression?

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Since I do not compress as much I do not get hard fouling on hot days.
Maybe the groups starting to open up more when I compressed more than .230" was due to the start of hard fouling.
So is the fouling using FFFg due to the finer powder granulation or due to too much compression?
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Started out using Fed 215s 19 yrs ago because of Garbe/Venturino's book. Experimented with other primers, powders etc for years. Now back to using Fed 215s. Also do not use as much black powder and/or compression as I once did. Don't know if it is my age or the learning curve or both that caused this. Also, my 2.6 seems to like Swiss 1Fg. Go figure?
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Kenny Wasserburger wrote:Br2 pretty much suck in my 45-110,

I will stick to the old WLRs, I have about 25,000 of them. Sealed in 20MM ammo cans.


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Federal 210 match.

My shooting partner, Jimbo and I compete, with our 45-110's and we both found these two primers the best, in our 110's.


A lot of wins, and medals prove it.

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THX-I too found Fed 210M to be outstanding.
When the 210M where hard to find a few years back-Tried CCI br2 and liked them.
I bought about 30K of'em, all the same lot #. My modern guns really like them also.
Really surprised, they didn't work for you-But, Every rifle, has it's own likes.
Kenny-Did you find the br2 issue with your other BPCR rifles?
FWIW: The white box WW L/R primers were not that great in either of my Shilohs.
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Re: compression?

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I use the old white box, primers, says for standard, or Magnum loads, haven't been made in nearly 20 or more years, I used them back in the day in my service rifle loads.

Kenny


Ps as I constantly tell folks the 2-7/8 Sharps is a different breed of cat. I use federal pistol primers in my other 38-50, still playin my 40-70.
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Yes. Interesting. When I have run out of the Fed 215s on occasion, I have used the Fed 210s. I guess they are now my second choice.
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