40 Cal Kidwell

[Old-Win]

Those of you shooting this bullet; is it hard to thumbseat this bullet when blow tubing with the first 2 bands at .400"? Would it be better to have the first two bands at .399"? How much extra powder can you get in the 40-65 using Starline brass? Thanks
https://www.buffaloarms.com/bullet-moul ... im409400m4

[MikeT]

Bob,

That bullet is defective, it has ridges in it!
Seriously, if you have a standard 0.400" bore, then the 0.400" diameter nose should work OK, if you wipe between shots.

Keep on hav'n fun!
MikeT

[Michael Johnson]

I actually just ordered this bullet with the first two bands at .399 and the third band at .401 for a .399 Krieger bore on a 40-65 Hiwall. BACO charges 10 bucks for the modification, this includes the .399 nose. - Mike

[MAH]

I have that same bullet but it comes with reduced bands, so no extra charge there. As far as powder charge goes, I found 62.5 grains of Swiss 1 1/2 with a .060 poly wad and never looked back. Have shot many a fine group and score with my rifle.

MAH

[ChrisF]

Never had the privilege to get an in stock from BACO but when I ordered it I never waited long to get it. Top quality people and company to deal with!

[Shadow 4]

I actually just ordered this bullet with the first two bands at .399 and the third band at .401 for a .399 Krieger bore on a 40-65 Hiwall. BACO charges 10 bucks for the modification, this includes the .399 nose. - Mike

How does the 399 work in the 399 barrel

Bob,

That bullet is defective, it has ridges in it!
Seriously, if you have a standard 0.400" bore, then the 0.400" diameter nose should work OK, if you wipe between shots.

Keep on hav'n fun!
MikeT

I agree, it is an extremely defective design
It doesn't shoot worth a damn
Horrible bullet

Those of you shooting this bullet; is it hard to thumbseat this bullet when blow tubing with the first 2 bands at .400"? Would it be better to have the first two bands at .399"? How much extra powder can you get in the 40-65 using Starline brass? Thanks
https://www.buffaloarms.com/bullet-moul ... im409400m4

The ONLY time they are hard to seat are when they come out of the mould oversized, (this doesn't happen very often) that's what a Steve Rhoades cam tool is for
I settled on 66 grs 2F Old E, & if I remember, it doesn't get a ton of compression, either, Paul I only jump on the handle once
I believe it's right at 1340+ fps, as Dan T recomended (1350), it sure seems to cut the air real fine
around 100 fps faster than I used to shoot stuff from this rifle
0.060 walters
Fed LR 210M PRIMER
& a Starline case, neck sized, annealed, that's it
This rd here has bumped around the house for a couple of years, stays on the coffee table next to my recliner, I'd better go shoot it before the powder goes bad
DANT 4O CAL by Brian Hickey, on Flickr

[Old-Win]

Bob,

That bullet is defective, it has ridges in it!
Seriously, if you have a standard 0.400" bore, then the 0.400" diameter nose should work OK, if you wipe between shots.

Keep on hav'n fun!
MikeT

Don't worry about Mike T. He just isn't used to seeing a "modern bullet" with grease grooves.
But he can turn a 40-50 SBN into a 40-65 really easy with diapers.

Shadow, does that Kidwell bullet normally stick out of the case that far in your rifle or do you have a long freebore in it? I'm trying to get another 5grs in the Starline case as my rifle must have a small chamber. I can only get 54 grs. of 1 1/2 in it now. Do you find that the rifle shoots the same if you have to cam an occasional round in now and then. Thanks.

[45bpcr]

A "Kidwell" bullet?

Well now I've just seen everything.

Snow's melting.

Craig

[gunlaker]

The "Kidwell" 409400M4 bullet has 3 reduced driving bands so it'll sit way out even in a Shiloh. I am using 60.6gr of OE 1.5 with very little compression, or 62gr of Swiss 1.5 in my .40-65. I could definitely fit more powder in if I wanted. The OE 1.5 load is a little over 1300 fps, and the Swiss one is a little bit faster.

Chris.

[bruce m]

that would be a good bullet for bigger cased faster twist 40 cals with another reduced band and groove added.
keep safe,
bruce.

[hueyw]

surely Mr. Kidwell gets a token royalty every time someone buys these molds.

[MAH]

Listen up! Mr. Kidwell does not accept any cash payments for his luminance brilliance. But it is not un-heard faithful followers bring him extravagant libation. Cheers Mr. Jim
MAH

[Jim Kidwell]

LOL, MAH. It's been a good performer. Even a blind hog can find an acorn once in a while. ..................

[Trigger1212]

Shadow4

How do you lube a reduced band bullet to look like that? I picked up a PJ 45 cal reduced band “money bullet” mold a while back but to date have done nothing with it. In part due to lubing. I normally run greasers through the ole line-a-manic but I know the reduced bands would make that an unholy mess.

I understand pan lubing (never done it so probably only THINK I understand it!) but even with pan lubing how do you address the reduced bands issue? My mind says using a fired cartridge as a cookie cutter will leave excess line on the smaller bands, and doesn’t seem like you could just pull em out either.

What’s the secret o-wise one? Want my bullets as purty as yours! Thanks

Cheers!

Wade

[Coltsmoke]

Trigger I run the bullets thru a lube sizer then seat them in the case. I have another case that I've neck sized down to the size of the reduced bands. Take that case and run it down over the bullet and it will push all the extra lube down to the mouth of the case the bullet is seated in. Wipe off the extra lube and reuse it.