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Re: no lead

Post by hipshot1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:51 pm

MAH
was just wondering if the solvent caused the pitting, wouldn't you have it all the way through the barrel and not just in the last eight inches?
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Re: no lead

Post by MAH » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:58 pm

The pitting is all thru the barrel. But the bore scope only goes down part of the way. It was Bore Tech that caused the problem. Not only killed two of my barrels but a friends also. So when you look at the cost of replacing two barrels. It turns out to be beyond scope.


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Re: no lead

Post by BFD » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:48 am

I use Bore Tech rimfire blend in my .22s and some other rifles. No pitting at all. I think something else pitted your barrels, MAH.

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Re: no lead

Post by MacRob46 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:47 am

I use Shiloh BP Solvent, followed by their Bore Cleaner. I have noticed small streaks of lead on the patch after the bore cleaner and usually wipe until that is gone. Follow with oil until the next shooting session and have had no problems. Simple regimen which works for me with good products.

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Re: no lead

Post by bruce m » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:28 pm

mah,
boretech or wipe out?
it is not clear which one you claim caused pitting?
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Re: no lead

Post by semtav » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:52 pm

bruce m wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:28 pm
mah,
boretech or wipe out?
it is not clear which one you claim caused pitting?
bruce.
I guess I was confused too. Thought we were talking about Sharp Shoot R products. Have a bottle of their black powder brushless bore cleaner that I've never used, but use their Patch-Out on my Blackhorn loads. Used to use the Bore Tech Eliminator on them but like the Patch Out better cause it's not as hard on my hands. There's something definitely strong in the Bore Tech Eliminator but I still use it on my high power rifles. Haven't seen any type of corrosion on any rifles since I went to dousing them with power lube.
Switching to paperpatched has eliminated the need for a lot of the harsh chemicals I used to use.

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Re: no lead

Post by bruce m » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:02 am

should have said boretech or sharpshoor products, not wipeout which is made by sharpshootr.
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Re: no lead

Post by martinibelgian » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:59 am

I had the reddish residue coming out (unfortunately not so much the lead) with the Sharpshootrs product, no issues at all with the boretech stuff, even when leaving it in the barrel. And yes, I do have a borescope.

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Re: no lead

Post by MAH » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:23 am

BFD,

There is no doubt what caused the pitting in the two barrels. Bore Tech Black Powder Solvent was the product. The one rifle was highly capable of shooting groups well under MOA at 500 yards. The "90" was equally as good. Then both of them the accuracy just dropped off a cliff. Baffled as to the caused both were inspected by the smith that fitted the barrels. Both the of the guns had the barrels less than a year old. My cleaning procedures were beyond question. Did some testing and with out doubt the problem was the solvent. A good friend of mine was using the same product. Checked his rifle out and there were pits in his barrel also.


I recall you having a problem much that mirrored mine as a couple of rifles went in a nose dive. Never did read if you ever found the base problem for the cause? Both of mine are somewhat shooting again but not the razor edge as they once did.


Currently I am using a homemade solvent of "Ed's Red. Working but still bitter about mediocre performance of my guns.


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Re: no lead

Post by BFD » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:16 am

No one else here seems to have that problem, myself included.

My rifles that have "nosed dived" have never seen Bore Tech. They get cleaned with water and then oiled.

I don't think Bore Tech causes corrosion at all.

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Re: no lead

Post by semtav » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:46 am

easiest way to settle this would be to get a piece of bare steel and wipe bore tech on half of it. then wipe it off and see. Arguing "did too"- "did not" isn't going to solve the question.

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Re: no lead

Post by BFD » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:10 pm

semtav wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:46 am
easiest way to settle this would be to get a piece of bare steel and wipe bore tech on half of it. then wipe it off and see. Arguing "did too"- "did not" isn't going to solve the question.
Yeah, you should do that.

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Re: no lead

Post by semtav » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:40 pm

BFD wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:10 pm


Yeah, you should do that.
Only have the Sharp Shoot R version so I just did. No internet so as soon as I figure out how to post the pic from my smart phone I will.

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Re: no lead

Post by semtav » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:18 pm

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Wiped on left half. Wiped off with dry paper towel. didn't lube afterward. We'll see what happens in a week
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Re: no lead

Post by bruce m » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:40 pm

so mah,
it is not the product "no lead" by sharpshootr that caused your problem as you originally stated, but another suspected product.
you really need to clarify this point, as people read things in the assumption of the statement being correct.
this is how urban myths evolve.
and do we believe other statements you make?
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