PP - testing some new paper

[martinibelgian]

Anyone having any experience with using pretty thin paper to patch bullets? I got myself some .001 paper, it adds about 0.0035 - 0.004 to the bullet diameter. Only issue is that I don't have a bullet to suit, so I' going to try it as an 'in betweener', patching up a .450 bullet to .454 for use in my no.2 Musket rifle.

Kurt,
You should have some similar experience, after all, you just about tried everything...

The intention is to use it with about 90 grs of powder, seated to touch the rifling, alloy 16:1. I'll try and make up some loads today, but not sure I'll be able to shoot them for some time though.
And then there's that modified Brooks moud to test, which was originally throwing a tapered bullet, but now modified to sport a parallel groove-dia. section, hopefully making it useful again. That tapered bullet was pretty erratical performance-wise...

[DAVE ROELLE]

I expermented with extremely thin "tissue" type paper used by dry-cleaners here in packaging finished shirts

The results were no better than the standard tracing paper i normally use

Handling the thinner paper was a bit trying, i dry wrap the light wax lube and size

The particular paper i had didnt have much wet strength, making wet wrapping difficult

Hope this gives a bit of insight--------perhaps the paper you have is toigher than mine

Dave

[DAVE ROELLE]

I expermented with extremely thin "tissue" type paper used by dry-cleaners here in packaging finished shirts

The results were no better than the standard tracing paper i normally use

Handling the thinner paper was a bit trying, i dry wrap the light wax lube and size

The particular paper i had didnt have much wet strength, making wet wrapping difficult

Hope this gives a bit of insight--------perhaps the paper you have is touglher than mine

Dave

[DAVE ROELLE]

I expermented with extremely thin "tissue" type paper used by dry-cleaners here in packaging finished shirts

The results were no better than the standard tracing paper i normally use

Handling the thinner paper was a bit trying, i dry wrap the light wax lube and size

The particular paper i had didnt have much wet strength, making wet wrapping difficult

Hope this gives a bit of insight--------perhaps the paper you have is touglher than mine

Dave

[DAVE ROELLE]

Durn cell phone posting. My bad

[martinibelgian]

Dave,

I dry wrapped my paper, no specific issues there. Just loaded up some test rounds with different powder charges - 76, 78 and 80 grs of Swiss 1 1/2Fg, bullet just touching the rifling. Now to find the time to test it...

[DAVE ROELLE]

Best of luck. Looking forward to your findings
Dave

[Don McDowell]

I'm using seth cole 55y to patch some bullets I use in the 40-70, 44-90 st., and the 45 2 7/8. Seems to hold up pretty well, and most notably in the 44 it shoots a bit tighter groups than the 8 b paper I normally use.
Dan t recommended utrecht 7 lb for some of the tighter fitting bullet combinations.

[Kurt]

Anyone having any experience with using pretty thin paper to patch bullets? I got myself some .001 paper, it adds about 0.0035 - 0.004 to the bullet diameter. Only issue is that I don't have a bullet to suit, so I' going to try it as an 'in betweener', patching up a .450 bullet to .454 for use in my no.2 Musket rifle.

Kurt,
You should have some similar experience, after all, you just about tried everything...

The intention is to use it with about 90 grs of powder, seated to touch the rifling, alloy 16:1. I'll try and make up some loads today, but not sure I'll be able to shoot them for some time though.
And then there's that modified Brooks moud to test, which was originally throwing a tapered bullet, but now modified to sport a parallel groove-dia. section, hopefully making it useful again. That tapered bullet was pretty erratical performance-wise...

Well there a few more things I would like to try

I don't like to patch with paper that won't at least add one thousand thickness more than the groove is deep. If the patched diameter is one or two thousands more than I can seat the cartridge by thumb I either breach seat the bullet or I will run the patched bullet through a bullet push though sizing die. One or two thousands doing this does not change the bullet enough to effect the performance.
Using a cartridge seater to cam the round into the chamber changes the powder compression and it shows up down range.
A tapered bullet was designed to use in fouled throats so it could be loaded for repeated shots fired with out fouling control.