The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

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The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by John Boy » Sun May 12, 2019 11:42 am

https://fedarm.com/product/22lr-conical ... asing-bulk
Includes 2000 primed empty 22LR cases
Also a waiting list for as many cases you want to buy .... https://fedarm.com/product/22lr-primed- ... 0-ct-pack/
Dies and molds are available and Old West makes a nice seater & crimp die with shell holder ... https://oldwestbulletmoulds.com/product ... -crimp-die
Plus Old West makes a nice 40gr 2x cavity mold ... https://oldwestbulletmoulds.com/product ... vity-mould
Add 4.5gr of Swiss Null-B, 1130 fps, and you'll be the First at the next 22 BPCR Match to be shooting The Real Deal :D
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by beltfed » Tue May 14, 2019 8:37 pm

How about plans for making 22 cal Bore Gophers/pigs, too
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by art ruggiero » Wed May 15, 2019 7:20 am

arnie; you could use cotton qtips :D art

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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Kurt » Wed May 15, 2019 8:19 am

Loading .22 cases used to be popular when .22 boosting .22 LR into a .22 MAG for long range matches before they came on the market. CH-4-D and Herders made a complete set of dies and primed brass has available. I still have a 1/2 3# can of primed cases and shell holder and dies, but I only load black now days now and they shoot very well.
It's good to see the dies and cases coming back again.
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Michael Johnson » Wed May 15, 2019 4:10 pm

So, Kurt and John what is the cleaning regimen during a 22 match? Can you dip lube the bullets with SPG and shoot the entire match without cleaning? Do you use a tiny blow tube? I ordered 4000 primed cases so I am now in deep. Decided to do this because I have not seen primed 22 cases in a long time. I also got the Old West 40gr double cavity mould. Not sure between the two choices of dies - Old West vs CH4D. Thanks for the info. Now I just need some Swiss NullB powder. One can should last a lifetime! Thanks! - Mike
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Kurt » Wed May 15, 2019 5:27 pm

Mike.

I know the search function here is hit and miss, mostly miss for me, but a few years ago I posted a test target here comparing the black powder .22 against Wolf and a couple other brands and the black shot just as well. I looked for the target but I can't find it.
The surprising thing with the .22 it shot the black powder load best not cleaning between shots with my Win low wall and I also use them in my 39 Marlin with out feeding problems.
I tested 2F, 3F and 4F the 3F performed the best. I was using KIK at that time.

I don't know if C-H-4D still has dies or not. I think John might got the last one off the shelf.
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Michael Johnson » Wed May 15, 2019 6:34 pm

Yeah, I do not even find 22LR or 5.6x15R dies on the CH4D site anymore so I guess Old West will be the dies for me.
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by John Boy » Fri May 17, 2019 11:23 am

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Shooting these 22 BP reloads with a dirty bore is really not an issue - 40 consecutive rounds, no patching or tubing
* and I also believe I got the last CH4D 22LR seat/crimp die. It was a special order and took over an hour to find it when I called
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Michael Johnson » Fri May 17, 2019 6:04 pm

John, what powder and what granulation are you using for this? It looks in the photo that you were using 4.2 grains of DuPont? I have access to Swiss and have 1fg, 1.5fg, and 3fg on hand. I know that Swiss also makes NullB. - Mike
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by John Boy » Fri May 17, 2019 7:59 pm

Mike, the DuPont powder was 40 to 60 mesh grains that I sifted out of a can FFFFg
After shooting some targets, I've settled using 4.5gr of Null-B only
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Michael Johnson » Tue May 28, 2019 10:29 am

CH4D still has 22lr die sets for 125 bucks. I just ordered a set
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Kurt » Tue May 28, 2019 11:07 am

What I like about loading .22 rounds you can load them softer than BB caps if you been around long enough they were loaded with round balls and the priming compound was enough to make them fly and very quiet loads for shooting in the basement using a card wood box fillet with rags for back stop.
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Michael Johnson » Thu May 30, 2019 8:09 pm

Just got my 3 die set from CH4D. Typical CH4D quality. They look great.Now to cast up some 40 grain heel bullets and dip lube them in SPG.
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Kurt » Thu May 30, 2019 8:52 pm

All the CH-4-D dies are top quality. I don't use my .22 die set too often but I would not part with them for anything.

Just be careful not to get too rough with the compression and set off the priming compound.
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Re: The Real Deal for BPCR 22LR Rifle Matches

Post by Michael Johnson » Thu May 30, 2019 9:07 pm

Not exactly the kind of excitement I crave! Thanks for the heads up!
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