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kenny s
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rather than hijack another thread. I'll ask anew ....
in my 40 70 SS, I've been using OE 1 1/2 , went to 2f just to see, I thought 2f would burn cleaner. Nope....
and all the posts seem to say Swiss 1 1/2....
So....I just ordered 5 pounds of Swiss 1 1/2. $180 total for the load.

expensive.....my usual supply co. is out of it. Which may answer my question!
Do you use Swiss 1 1/2, and at what compression.
I'm loading now at 1/8, .0170.

415 PP BA custom .393 mold, patched to bore .400, 1/20 mix, 9 lb paper, all bullets and charges weighed.
.060 veggie wad. (don't see a diff. with the plastic wads)
hand seated and very very slight squish in the factory die. just to hold the bullet.

accuracy at 100 is usually under 2 inches, some much less.....1 1/4 8 shot groups, centered.

any thoughts about the Swiss powder? Ken
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My PP loads run around .080 to .095 on compression with Swiss 1.5
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thanks Coltsmoke. I'll try a little less than the 1/8* inch I'm now doing.
will go to .080 to start. Ken
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kenny s, I have 1.5 Swiss in my 40 calibers loads, and none of them are over 0.060" compression.
Start with close to zero compression, you may be surprised.

keep on hav'n fun!
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Ken there is a reason that when you have a look at equipment lists it's almost all Swiss powder for the winners. It is good stuff.

I've burned a little more than a couple of cases of OE 1.5 and it is very good ( actually I've just ordered another case ), but in almost every case I find Swiss just a little bit better. I tried OE because when it came out people here were saying that it burned cleaner than Swiss. I don't find that the case at all. I wipe between shots and can feel the difference between Swiss fouling and OE. In every load in pretty much all of my rifles, OE 1.5 leaves a harder fouling than Swiss 1.5.

Several years ago Zack started a thread about what he called a "balanced load". It's worth a read. To me the idea with this game is that everything you bring to the shooting line is part of a system. This includes the shooter, rifle, the load, fouling management, wind strategy. It all has to work together, so a good load is about more than how it shoots up close in testing.

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thanks guys. good info.
Swiss 1 1/2 on the way. I'll try it.
and comp. will be less than I'm now using. Ken
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