Original Sharps Catridges??

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Old-Win
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Original Sharps Catridges??

Post by Old-Win » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:49 am

I've been doing a little research on Sharps Cartridges and was hoping the Sharps Collectors out there could help me out? Was the 40-90 Sharps Straight, a cartridge developed by the Sharps Rifle Company? Most will say, "of course", but Frank Sellers does not list it in his book. Cartridges of the World says that it came out around 1885. That's four years after Sharps had closed its doors. Another reason I am wondering about this is that I saw a picture that shows a highwall chambered in and stamped 45 Sharps 3-1/4" by the factory. According to records from the Winchester Collectors website, 30 highwalls were made in that caliber and 743 in 40-90 Sharps Straight. One of those in .45 3-1/4" could be a highwall used in the bear article. Sellers is pretty firm in his book that the Sharps Company never made a cartridge longer than 2-7/8" other than one experimental rifle for the Union Metallic Co. The 40-90 is a 3-1/4" shell. Could these two cartridges be Winchester developments and they stole the Sharps name for marketing purposes? Since Sellers had access to the Sharps records when he wrote his book, you'd think he would have mentioned the 40-90 straight if there were records for it.
Do any of you collectors of Sharps rifles have or know of one chambered by the Sharps Rifle Co. for that caliber?
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Re: Original Sharps Catridges??

Post by desert deuce » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:02 pm

Do not have in my possession, BUT, I believe I have seen and handled two different original Model 1874 Sharps Rifles in 40-90.
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Re: Original Sharps Catridges??

Post by Old-Win » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:59 pm

Were they straight or bottleneck? Thanks.

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Re: Original Sharps Catridges??

Post by mdeland » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:28 pm

Kenny W. will know the answer to your question! Hope he sees this thread.

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Re: Original Sharps Catridges??

Post by Chief Beck » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:55 pm

Old-Win,

Looking at Marcot's book, a .40-90 Straight case is not mentioned as well only the .40-70 2.5" case. Keep in mind that Sharps never chambered any 3-1/4" cases other than the one you already pointed out, a one time deal.

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Re: Original Sharps Catridges??

Post by bobw » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:35 am

Chief, hit it. I've seen more than a few 40 2 5/8" SBN(90) originals. Never a factory cut 40-90 SS 3 1/4" except in a highwall. All the original 40-90 3 1/4" ammo boxes have been UMC or Winchester mostly UMC. Back then Sharps would rechamber to a longer cartridge for a fee but the 3 1/4" cartridges did come out after Sharps closed it's doors. So if you find a original 74 or conversion gun chambered for 40-90 SS it was either rechambered for the longer cartridge or rebarreled by a gunsmith not the factory. bobw SCA board member.
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