Thought I would post my results with my Shiloh Farmingdale Ser #2309 .50 cal carbine. I used Charlie Hahn's carboard 1 1/2 "tubes. (Just received Saturday). The method and results are as follows:
-Hahn's 1 1/2" cardboard tube
-Lyman 575141 50 cal bullet, 425 grain ( not weighed) 30-1 lead mix
-Lubrisized SPG and sized to .510
-One end of the tube attached 1/2" vegetable wad with white glue. Filled with FFFG Goex approx 60 grains volume measurement. When weighed on a scale the load weighed 62.98 grains. No compression. A 1/2" newspaper print was attached to the other end to finish.
-At the range the bullet was seated. The charged tube was slid in behind, newsprint towards the rear. About 3/16" of space left to the breech face. CCI cap used
-Chronographed at 985 fps (avg) 7 shots, accuracy very good.
I only shot at 50 yards and I have a terrible time with the sights. I need to hold about 10" low to put it in the center, which doesn't help, but I was very pleased with the results.
Tried Charlie's tubes today
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'63 Shiloh
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Good day with your Shiloh mate.
I use Charlie's Tubes too in my .54, with very good results. I am thinking of ways to make a waterproof 'tube holder'; one made of plastic or similar that will hold a tube.
I have used successfully, a tube filled with powder and both ends sealed with a circle of paper and glued with nail polish. I simply short start the bullet and insert the tube behind then close the block.
For hunting, I am looking at a few ways to use this method and keep my powder dry. I have a piece of poly pipe that holds 8 535gn .54 cal bullets that are removed by screwing off one end of the cap and just tipping a bullet into the chamber. I am looking at ways to carry my pre filled tubes in a way that will keep them dry, in their own waterproof container.
One thing I have learnt, nitrated paper is not required! I have used many types of paper, up to 80gsm copier paper with no ignition problems. I do however, ensure that I shoot off a couple of caps to clear anything out of the ignition channel.
Keep us posted on your load development mate, looks like you are on track.
Cheers,
Mike
I use Charlie's Tubes too in my .54, with very good results. I am thinking of ways to make a waterproof 'tube holder'; one made of plastic or similar that will hold a tube.
I have used successfully, a tube filled with powder and both ends sealed with a circle of paper and glued with nail polish. I simply short start the bullet and insert the tube behind then close the block.
For hunting, I am looking at a few ways to use this method and keep my powder dry. I have a piece of poly pipe that holds 8 535gn .54 cal bullets that are removed by screwing off one end of the cap and just tipping a bullet into the chamber. I am looking at ways to carry my pre filled tubes in a way that will keep them dry, in their own waterproof container.
One thing I have learnt, nitrated paper is not required! I have used many types of paper, up to 80gsm copier paper with no ignition problems. I do however, ensure that I shoot off a couple of caps to clear anything out of the ignition channel.
Keep us posted on your load development mate, looks like you are on track.
Cheers,
Mike
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emito condito
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Waterproof storage
Hey 63,
I don't know if this will help, but a buddy of mine used to take a fired 12 gauge shell and a fired 16 gauge shell, trim the crimp off the ends. The 16 would slide neatly into the 12 and make a great little water tight storage for matches while camping. Might work on the tubes as well!
I don't know if this will help, but a buddy of mine used to take a fired 12 gauge shell and a fired 16 gauge shell, trim the crimp off the ends. The 16 would slide neatly into the 12 and make a great little water tight storage for matches while camping. Might work on the tubes as well!
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MissedAgain
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Emito:
Are you using the rear sight with the ladder up? I found that at the lowest setting I was also shooting about a foot high. Using the "battle sight", I was dead on at 50 yards.
You will need a higher front sight blade to lower the impact point. Unfortunately, fixing the front sight on carbines will require some machining.
Are you using the rear sight with the ladder up? I found that at the lowest setting I was also shooting about a foot high. Using the "battle sight", I was dead on at 50 yards.
You will need a higher front sight blade to lower the impact point. Unfortunately, fixing the front sight on carbines will require some machining.
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emito condito
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Front sight
Missed,
No, Im using the sight folded down. I've talked to a local gunsmith about milling a slot in the front sight base so a new blade can be istalled by pinning. I guess the only other option would be cutting a dovetail and putting a sporting blade in.
No, Im using the sight folded down. I've talked to a local gunsmith about milling a slot in the front sight base so a new blade can be istalled by pinning. I guess the only other option would be cutting a dovetail and putting a sporting blade in.
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What I have done with my front sight as an interim until I can get a new one cut and put in.....
Simply glue a bit of hacksaw blade to the right hand side of the existing sight, obviously have the hacksaw blade higher.
Then you are aware that a rear windage adjustment is needed to compensate for the 'new' sight.
When I have someone able to put a dovetail cut in, I will just put some petrol or similar on; to loosen the araldite holding the hacksaw blade sight.
Its easy and it works, I can now aim dead on at 50-100 with no problems. A little trial with your rear sight heights will give you a POA for 200,300 and on.
Cheers,
Mike
Simply glue a bit of hacksaw blade to the right hand side of the existing sight, obviously have the hacksaw blade higher.
Then you are aware that a rear windage adjustment is needed to compensate for the 'new' sight.
When I have someone able to put a dovetail cut in, I will just put some petrol or similar on; to loosen the araldite holding the hacksaw blade sight.
Its easy and it works, I can now aim dead on at 50-100 with no problems. A little trial with your rear sight heights will give you a POA for 200,300 and on.
Cheers,
Mike
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KL
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