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Clean out screw

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:11 am
by milcol
I just picked up a 1863 Shiloh Sharps Carbine (Farmingdale) dropped the breech block and cleaned it but could not get the clean out screw out, tried penetrating oil heat and it would not budge,I do not want to twist the head off or spread the slot any other ideas, does Shiloh do any work on these.
Thanks

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:44 pm
by George Babits
Keep it wet with penetrating for for a couple of days. Kroil is probably the best penetrating oil to use. Do you have a set of "mag-tip" screw drivers and a drill press? If you have both, you can use the tightest fitting screwdriver tip for the screw slot in the drill press chuck. Pull down the quill to set the blade firmly in the slot. Hold the block with one hand and use the other hand to turn the chuck. If it is going to come out, that will almost always do it.

Good luck,
George
Salmon, Idaho

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:47 am
by snapcap14
IF YOU CAN'T get it out send it to charlie Hahn. he will get it out and replace it w his clean out screw that takes a hex key. or even if you do i would order one of his screws. have one in my shiloh.
i beleive he is on this BB. I have his phone and address if you need it.

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:26 am
by kenny sd
s and s firearms $10 has a clean out screw. I have one on order for my original now.

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:28 am
by kenny sd
Put it in the freezer overnight. then put it on a vise or metal base, get a round punch, not a pointed one, and TAP it firmly..
that will loosen the seal that has developed. you can drill center and use a screw remover ACE hardware, and try that..it should come out.

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:39 pm
by kenny sd
OK the S and S Sharps clean out screw came today. very well made to 'almost' fit my 63 original carbine.
under $20 with shipping......well made....but it needed a little work on the head.
I had to clean out the hole very well...it finally sunk to full depth, but needed to have the head filed down a 'hair' to fit flush with the block.
I then turned it in a drill, pushing against sandpaper to round off as it should be, a little gun blue and it's in for good.

It is invisible anyway, but the screw is available and it works..

Ken

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:58 pm
by snapcap14
Now you need to adjust the depth of the screw. Put the screw in. Then a drill bit in the cone until it bottoms out on the clean out screw or back of block. then back the screw out if the bit hits it . . Remove the bit and you are set. Length of clean out screw is very important. It prevents the flash from over shooting the cone or if to long blocks the flash channel

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:58 pm
by John Boy
Soak it with a 50:50 mix of ATF and Acetone

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:15 am
by kenny sd
SNAPCAP. that is interesting about the length of the screw. I don't intend to fire it, but I'll check just in case. If it seems too long, would you take a little off the end???? Ken

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:50 pm
by kenny sd
if someone has an original, could you measure the cleanout screw
total length, and also distance from the last thread on the screw..

thanks..Ken

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:07 pm
by snapcap14
Mines a Shiloh so can’t help.
Yes on I never had one too long just to short. I would think you could grind a little off if to long. Not sure what that would do to the hardness. Maybe check w Charlie Hahn. Or someone else will weigh in

Re: Clean out screw

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:54 am
by kenny sd
I popped a cap just to see. smoke came out of the barrel...so something is getting through.
flash visible at the gap though....
like I said...I'm not going to shoot it, just want to get it back to cW condition. The gun is really nice and clean..
bore cleaned up sharp and new...when I got it, it was covered with sticky oil, grease, moose piss???
took a lot of alcohol to clean it up and do the for end repair, but it is sharp and clean now. even the inspectors marks were under the sludge.
all there too....
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