filler ?

OLD CHIEF · Post by **OLD CHIEF** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:01 am

i am trying to make up a target load for my Shiloh 63 using grits for a filler but it looks like the grits and the powder are mixing some after the paper cartridge is made up and lubed.

what can i do to insure a constant powder load. i have used the loading tubes but that is slow and would realy like to use paper cartridge loads.

Bill Hicks
Dahlonega Ga

Post by **Kirk** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:51 am

How much powder are you using in order to need filler? Kirk

buffalocannon · Post by **buffalocannon** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:04 pm

XXGrampa, can you please help Oldchief out with a grits recipe for his rifle, or is it oatmeal that you use? I get cornfused at times anymore. Hominy good years have I got left, I don't know?

OLD CHIEF · Post by **OLD CHIEF** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:53 am

Kirk- i am hopeing to end up with a load of around 50 gr.

Bill

Post by **Kirk** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:50 am

Will the gun not fire with just a 50 grain cartridge?

OLD CHIEF · Post by **OLD CHIEF** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:00 am

Kirk

with 50 gr i get hang fires

Bill

Rich Siegel · Post by **Rich Siegel** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:14 am

Old Chief

Do you have a rifle or a carbine? What type bullet are you using?

You could load your filler in the paper cartridge first and then put a layer of thin paper over it and put in the powder next. An alternative is with a ringtail bullet, the tail is 50 caliber so after you glue on the paper cartridge, you could put 50 cal. wads in, next to the bullet tail, to take up space.

Rich

dm3280 · Post by **dm3280** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:46 pm

When I roll my cartridge for a 54 cal the diamater of the tube is exactly the same as that of a 45-70 shell. This allows me to put in the powder then a fiber wad then the filler then the bullet is glued in. Works great

OLD CHIEF · Post by **OLD CHIEF** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:30 am

I am useing a ring tail in an 63 carbine. do you use a wonder wad?

Thanks Bill

Rich Siegel · Post by **Rich Siegel** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:19 am

Bill,

I don't use any wad in the paper cartridge. Just glue teh paper tube onto the tail, pour in the powder and glue an end cap on the back of the cartridge. I use hair curler paper for the end cap. The percussion cap burns right through.

Rich

dm3280 · Post by **dm3280** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:59 pm

I use a fiber wad that they sell to put between the bullet and powder in a 45-70 case. I think they call the Walter vegitable wads. They are brown and look like a piece of cardboard and come in different thicknesses. If you have a punch just punch some out of tablet paper or milk cartons, anything that will keep the filler and powder seperate.

dra1911 · Post by **dra1911** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:53 pm

Hey Guys,
I've managed to produce several rounds using 55 grains of black powder and a Lee .5cc measure of cornmeal seprated by a 3/4" square piece of veillum paper. I slightly compress the powder and cornmeal before seating and gluing a ringtail bullet. Pre-shape my wads by pushing them in a 6pt 1/2" socket with a 1/2" dowel rod, use the same dowel rod to compress the black powder and cornmeal. The finished product is a very tight paper cartridge. Have'nt gone to the range to test them yet. Is this a safe way of using the filler? Am I wasting my time building my cartridges this way?
Good Shooting
Dan