OFFICIAL 2021 FALL POSTAL THREAD
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Next time, remember to activate that solitary brain cell and take it with you.
May be difficult to set a dead wind zero without it activated.
May be difficult to set a dead wind zero without it activated.
Sometimes you get the chicken, and sometimes you get the feathers!
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Now you are assuming we actually have calm winds here.
Last one if those I saw, it was about -30 deg.
I'll just tap the front sight over a tad and hope for the best.
Last one if those I saw, it was about -30 deg.
I'll just tap the front sight over a tad and hope for the best.
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Or add more powder so it spins faster
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Obviously you have misplaced that most valuable cell.
Again.
Again.
Sometimes you get the chicken, and sometimes you get the feathers!
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What?? You trying to tell me more powder won't increase spin drift??
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DD,
Since I was at my limit on powder, I decided to back off 5 grains and drift the sight over.
evidently they offset each other because the first shot today was right with the last two shots yesterday.
Didn't get centered in the bullseye, so no score today either !!
Since I was at my limit on powder, I decided to back off 5 grains and drift the sight over.
evidently they offset each other because the first shot today was right with the last two shots yesterday.
Didn't get centered in the bullseye, so no score today either !!
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Typical Wednesday load test. 68grains looks pretty good ,69 looks better.
1874 Shiloh Creedmoor #2 ,45-70, 30 inch barrel, MVA midrange iron sights .
Baco 520M2 GG, 69grains Swiss 1.5, Fed 150m. 11.12 string measure.
Got a little excited and shanked the last shot at 6, oh well Next Time!
1874 Shiloh Creedmoor #2 ,45-70, 30 inch barrel, MVA midrange iron sights .
Baco 520M2 GG, 69grains Swiss 1.5, Fed 150m. 11.12 string measure.
Got a little excited and shanked the last shot at 6, oh well Next Time!
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What the !!?!! Do I see green grass !!!
I better go check the rule book and see if that's allowed !!
Good shooting.
I better go check the rule book and see if that's allowed !!
Good shooting.
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YES, the grass is always greener in the PNWet! And the bluest skies you've ever seen are in Seattle. unfortunately it is rainy an overcast 10 month's of the year. Folks have been known to stop and look up at the Sun on a nice day and ask What's That?
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Then there's the "Aroma of Tacoma"!
Ed
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Amocat?,,,,,, heck I shoot over at Pew-al-up
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MrE, out of curiosity. Have you run a ladder test with that rifle starting about 56.0 grains and increasing in half grain increments?
Sure, if those groups you show are fired at 200 yards the result is good enough for silhouette, however, sometimes doing ladder loads beginning about 56.0 grains up to say 71.0 grains may tighten even those groups.
Just a thought.
Sure, if those groups you show are fired at 200 yards the result is good enough for silhouette, however, sometimes doing ladder loads beginning about 56.0 grains up to say 71.0 grains may tighten even those groups.
Just a thought.
Sometimes you get the chicken, and sometimes you get the feathers!
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Thought I'd better get this posted before DD gives me any grief !!!
BPCR
Scope
9.315.... Distant Thunder....SR 74.....44/77....86 gr Swiss 1.5....1-17 twist....Rem 2 1/2 LP......512 gr Brooks PP
11.205... Distant Thunder....SR 74....44/77....86 gr Swiss 1.5....1/17 twist....Rem 1 1/2 LP......512 gr Brooks PP
11.265...Distant Thunder.....SR 74....44/77....86 gr Swiss 1.5....1-17 twist ....Rem 2 1/2 LP.....512 gr Brooks PP
12.080...Distant Thunder.....SR 74....44/77....86 gr Swiss 1.5....1-17 twist.....Rem 2 1/2 LP.....512 gr Brooks PP
18.713......Woody..............SR74.....45-70.....58 gr Swiss 2F....1-18 twist........BR-2.............545 gr Mike Lewis Postel
Iron
10.58.....MrE..............B-Wall.......40-65......56 gr Swiss 1.5........16 twist........Fed 150M.............RCBS 400 BPS
10.98....ian45662.........SR 74.......45-70......85 gr Swiss 1.5.........16 twist........Fed 210M............Brooks 536 gr PP
11.12.....MrE................SR74.......45-70.....69 gr Swiss 1.5..........18 twist........Fed150M............Baco 520M2 GG
12.85.....MrE................FBW.......45-90......76 gr Swiss 1F..........18 twist.........Fed 150M ... .......540 Gr Brooks Creedmoor GG
15.084...DAG45-70.......SR-74........45-70......66 gr Swiss 1.5.........18 twist........GM210M..............535 gr Baco Creedmoor GG
Iron (5 shot)
5.00.....R. Moritz.......... ???..............38-55.....57 gr Swiss 2F..........?.............FLP................360 Money GG
5.105....MrE.............Ball-Wall..........40-65.....51 gr Swiss 1.5.......16 twist........Fed 150M.......Brooks Snover GG
7.25......semtav............Borchardt.....40-82.....83 gr Swiss 1.5.....1-13 twist.....WLR primer......Baco DD PP
8.25......mike herth........ RB............45-70......75 gr OE 1.5........?...............?.................Brooks .441 PP
.22 Rifle
Scope
9.177.....Coltsmoke......CPA............Eley Match
15.245.....Woody.......Low Wall........Eley Tenex
Iron
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Military
Big Bore
23.292....Woody....84 TD.....45-70.....60 gr Swiss 2F....BR 2 primers........525 Brooks "turkey killer"
Small Bore
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BPCR
Scope
9.315.... Distant Thunder....SR 74.....44/77....86 gr Swiss 1.5....1-17 twist....Rem 2 1/2 LP......512 gr Brooks PP
11.205... Distant Thunder....SR 74....44/77....86 gr Swiss 1.5....1/17 twist....Rem 1 1/2 LP......512 gr Brooks PP
11.265...Distant Thunder.....SR 74....44/77....86 gr Swiss 1.5....1-17 twist ....Rem 2 1/2 LP.....512 gr Brooks PP
12.080...Distant Thunder.....SR 74....44/77....86 gr Swiss 1.5....1-17 twist.....Rem 2 1/2 LP.....512 gr Brooks PP
18.713......Woody..............SR74.....45-70.....58 gr Swiss 2F....1-18 twist........BR-2.............545 gr Mike Lewis Postel
Iron
10.58.....MrE..............B-Wall.......40-65......56 gr Swiss 1.5........16 twist........Fed 150M.............RCBS 400 BPS
10.98....ian45662.........SR 74.......45-70......85 gr Swiss 1.5.........16 twist........Fed 210M............Brooks 536 gr PP
11.12.....MrE................SR74.......45-70.....69 gr Swiss 1.5..........18 twist........Fed150M............Baco 520M2 GG
12.85.....MrE................FBW.......45-90......76 gr Swiss 1F..........18 twist.........Fed 150M ... .......540 Gr Brooks Creedmoor GG
15.084...DAG45-70.......SR-74........45-70......66 gr Swiss 1.5.........18 twist........GM210M..............535 gr Baco Creedmoor GG
Iron (5 shot)
5.00.....R. Moritz.......... ???..............38-55.....57 gr Swiss 2F..........?.............FLP................360 Money GG
5.105....MrE.............Ball-Wall..........40-65.....51 gr Swiss 1.5.......16 twist........Fed 150M.......Brooks Snover GG
7.25......semtav............Borchardt.....40-82.....83 gr Swiss 1.5.....1-13 twist.....WLR primer......Baco DD PP
8.25......mike herth........ RB............45-70......75 gr OE 1.5........?...............?.................Brooks .441 PP
.22 Rifle
Scope
9.177.....Coltsmoke......CPA............Eley Match
15.245.....Woody.......Low Wall........Eley Tenex
Iron
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Military
Big Bore
23.292....Woody....84 TD.....45-70.....60 gr Swiss 2F....BR 2 primers........525 Brooks "turkey killer"
Small Bore
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DD
No, not with the 74. I usually start out with 8 or 10 shot groups and work up in 1.5 or 2 grains then refine from there. I've done ladder testing with the Ball-Wall 40-65 but I really need an interpreter to read those kind of chicken bones, so I went back to the old way of incremental loads testing.
What kind of a wad stack do suggest for a 56 grain load. That's going to be well below no compression height, something like a fiber, poly, paper, then bullet stack?
No, not with the 74. I usually start out with 8 or 10 shot groups and work up in 1.5 or 2 grains then refine from there. I've done ladder testing with the Ball-Wall 40-65 but I really need an interpreter to read those kind of chicken bones, so I went back to the old way of incremental loads testing.
What kind of a wad stack do suggest for a 56 grain load. That's going to be well below no compression height, something like a fiber, poly, paper, then bullet stack?
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Using Swiss 1.5, enough wads to give .105" compression with the bullet seated about 30-60 thousandths into the rifling.
As you go up in powder volume, keep the same compression and cartridge overall length by reducing wad stack.
I have witnessed match winning world championship shooting under poor conditions at 600 yards with a 45-70 using 57.0 grains of Swiss 1.5. That's why I recommend starting below that at 56.0 grains and working up.
You may hit another sweet spot around 60.0 - 62.0 grains.
Listen to the target.
As you go up in powder volume, keep the same compression and cartridge overall length by reducing wad stack.
I have witnessed match winning world championship shooting under poor conditions at 600 yards with a 45-70 using 57.0 grains of Swiss 1.5. That's why I recommend starting below that at 56.0 grains and working up.
You may hit another sweet spot around 60.0 - 62.0 grains.
Listen to the target.
Sometimes you get the chicken, and sometimes you get the feathers!