Dead beaten horse brought back to beat to death again

[drcook]

Hi all, hope all are well.

It's been a while and I have been out of touch with the BPCR world. I sold one of my CPA's to a friend who really doesn't want to shoot BP in the beginning if he can avoid it. Who has a safe load for a 45-70, SMOKELESS powder load ? He is using a 540 gr bullet that he is casting himself.

I gave him 5 lbs of Goex 2F so down the road he can try it out if he wants, but for right now, he just wants to shoot it.

Thanks !
Dave

[SchuetzenDave]

Lee Modern Reloading 2nd Edition
.45-70 Government loads suitable for any rifle in good condition

530 grain lead bullet:

A-XMR-2495 41.4 grains (1237 fps) to 46.0 grains (1406 fps) 11600 psi
A-XMR-3100 49.5 grains (1196 fps) to 55.0c grains (1359 fps) 16900 psi
A-XMR-4350 43.2 grains (1167 fps) to 48.0 grains (1326 fps) 16600 psi
ACCUR 8700 58.5 grains ( 932 fps) to 65.0c grains (1059 fps) 15800 psi

[letfly]

If your friend has either H or IMR-4198 28gr is a real peach.

[drcook]

I asked the folks at CPA and they said to not exceed 30,000 psi and no jacketed bullets.

Thanks!

[drcook]

If your friend has either H or IMR-4198 28gr is a real peach.

What bullet weight are you (or did) use ?

[doug_bailey]

Now that I have a process for reloading with black powder for the Sharps, I'm interested in making up some smokeless loads for my Winchester 1886 - plinking rather than super accuracy. I bought some 405 grain flatnose with HiTek powder coating, and I was looking for some IMR4198 locally - can't find any - so I'm still hunting for a suitable powder. I may order online.

My question is whether I need to lube the powder coated bullets. They have lube grooves, but I think the idea of the powder coat is to avoid the need for lube. If I should lube, what do you all recommend?

[marlinman93]

If your friend has either H or IMR-4198 28gr is a real peach.

That's a great load, and my ballistic program shows it's under 20,000 psi, so very safe and mild.

[letfly]

I lube all of my molly, etc. grooved bullets with SPG. Same process as loading for black. That 28gr. 4198 load worked wonders with a Paul Jones creedmoor, 530 gr.