Why case separation?

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Re: Why case separation?

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O ya just make sure you leave them in the tumbler long enough to clean them really good lol :D :D :D Keep shooting and having fun :D :D :D
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Re: Why case separation?

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Have someone make you a cylindrical slug a few thousands under bore diameter to drop down the barrel after you swab it with a wet patch. The case fragment will punch out the breech with a rod. I've made them out of brass, aluminum and delrin. Keep it in your kit, if you don't need it someone will.
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Yes, works like a charm.
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Great idea! Thanks!
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Re: Why case separation?

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My tumbler came in the other day. What a difference it made!
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Looking good and very uniform.bobw
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bobw wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:09 am Looking good and very uniform.bobw
Yup, the name of the game is ‘the same’.

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Re: Why case separation?

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This Ulsher technique works as well:

Cut blue shop towels into 1/2" squares, put in bag and have in shooting box. For a separated case:

* Close breech
* Take shop towel squares, from the muzzle end, using cleaning rod start to push down and fill chamber until about 1/2" above lands.
* Tamp down patches down good and tight, like you would loading a muzzle loader.
* Open breech, take rod and from the muzzle end, push patches out; the separated case will come with them.
If it doesn't, just repeat, it will the second time.

It's simple and quick with no potential damage to your barrel.

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Good plan, RB1Shooter. Good plan.
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Re: Why case separation?

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I've never experienced a case separation but, if needed, keep a simple tool in the shooting box for removing the remaining case. Since the majority of my shooting is with a .40-65, the tool is just a .38 Special or .357 Mag. case with the rim turned down to 0.399" diameter - quite easy with a belt sander or chucking the case is a drill & spinning it against sand paper. Just drop it down the bore from the muzzle rim 1st followed by a cleaning rod to push the remaining case out. It should work with any .40 caliber BPCR

I don't know what rimmed handgun case would be suitable for .45 caliber but no doubt there is one.

Here’s the type I also keep in the shooting box in case of a .45-70 separation which should work with any .45 caliber BPCR:
https://www.lodgewood.com/US-4570-Sprin ... _2672.html

Unless you're shooting an original Springfield Trapdoor rifle, don’t purchase the Springfield model 1882 .45-70 extractor since it’s made for only 3-groove bores.

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Re: Why case separation?

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What is the white stuff on the bullets? Is that to keep the grease lube clean when you seat the bullet way out?
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Gussy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:00 pm What is the white stuff on the bullets? Is that to keep the grease lube clean when you seat the bullet way out?
Yes, indeed, Gussy. :lol:

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This is my case cleaning process (the ‘KISS’ method - KISS: ‘keep it simple, stupid’):
I deprime the spent cases, power-brush them all in hot soapy water(a little vinegar to help neutralize the acidity), rinse, then dry them in the oven at 175 degrees for twenty minutes. I then store them in one-gallon ziplocks until I have a large enough quantity to ‘spit-shine’ in my tumbler. They turn out looking perfectly new after tumbling and drying.
I think I’ve got a good plan/system.
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Re: Why case separation?

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That’ll work.

I did some pH testing a while back and found that it took about 1 1/2 ounces of white vinegar in about 2/3 gallon of water to bring the pH back down into the normal range. I was just soaking the decapped cases too, not brushing them.

If you just dump fired cases into soap water, the pH will run up to about 10-11 (alkaline). The small amount of vinegar will get it down to around 6-7. Use too much vinegar and you can end up in an acid state (pH below 5). Either an acid or alkaline state can corrode your brass. 1 1/2 ounces of vinegar is the amount thats in a large shot glass, the one with the line on it.
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Re: Why case separation?

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Thanks, Jonny! Very much appreciated. If my math is correct that’s (3) ounces of white vinegar per @(19) cups of water. Again, your help is greatly appreciated!
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