Reading tea leaves or better yet paper patches

[desert deuce]

Aviator wrote: "Are you going to have good jokes?"

There you go, getting technical again. Look up the definition of, improbable. You know how my jokes go.

[Aviator]

Wellllllllll, I can only promise to laugh at the funny ones.......

[Shadow 4]

If I remember correctly, Brian H used a different metal to make his ring different.

I did & it does

[JonnyV]

The sharp black lines might indicate some hard fouling in the grooves. Good cleaning in order?

[Kurt]

If I remember correctly, Brian H used a different metal to make his ring different.

I did & it does

The first time I shot the new plates before the match I told Carolyn that sounds like a church bell ringing over the hill and she said no you hit center, it's the target ringing When you hear those bells ring during a match you know not to mess with the adjustments
I hope to get back next year to ring those bells again.

[gunlaker]

I've seen brown on patches where the bore wasn't clean and dry. Your cleaning routine should make for a clean and dry bore though.

I have also seen black streaks like that in the groove corners. I don't remember the circumstance, but the black stuff was a combination of leading and fouling left in the corners of the grooves.

Zack that was funny about the chickens . Thanks for the laugh

Chris.

[gunlaker]

Your paper and bullet diameter should work well enough. I've had good results with a .443 BACO elliptical patched with 8lb esleeck paper. But better with a .446 BACO money and Seth Cole 55W.

I'm using a completely different chamber though. Dan Theodore .45-70 with a 0.474" chamber diameter. I've never had the 45-70 shred the paper as much as the big cases will. The outer wrap is confetti and the inner stays one piece. Last time I had it out testing at 500m on the silhouette range it shot right with my Shiloh 40-65 ( which is as superb a rifle as can be made ) at the turkeys and rams. Hardly any vertical at all. That's with a moderate load of Swiss Fg powder believe it or not.

My bigger cases really shred the patches much more. My 45-90 & 45-100 make confetti of the inner and outer wraps.

Chris.

[martinibelgian]

You should see the patches when I shoot military rifle, no cleaning between shots, blowtubing only. And yes, I use a grease cookie. It does shoot quite well, providing I do my bit.

[desert deuce]

Gunlaker wrote; "Zack that was funny about the chickens" . Thanks for the laugh

The Improvised Irishman, not so much. But his accomplice causes one to wonder if their parents put them out in the yard with the chickens when they were just starting to walk. Could not contain myself. You know, two steps, look side to side, then down and then peck at the ground? Two more steps, look side to side, then down and then peck at the ground? and repeat. Like a Rhode Island Red.

Once Canada becomes part of the USA you and Pablo need to jump on down here and join in the fun.

[flatsguide]

Thanks gunmaker! I need to figure out why this gun is not shooting as it did in the past.
Thanks Richard

[ian45662]

I tried to get Steve to walk around the firing line today to look at his patches and he wouldn’t. I wanted to get a picture of him pecking the ground. Really the only time one should look for their spent patches is if they are having accuracy issues. Steve is having no troubles in the accuracy department so he need not look for his patches. He is beating everyone right now……. Everyone.

[ian45662]

Steve did end up winning the match at Camp Atterbury over the weekend. He beat all the muzzleloaders and the cartridge rifles with his muzzleloader. I don’t think I have ever seen that done at this particular match. Bravo Steve!!! Maybe this is why they call him, Steve the Machine

[flatsguide]

I just picked up some Iosso paste cleaner. I’ll give the bore a good cleaning and see what happens. Thanks for all the help so far guys!
Cheers Richard

[flatsguide]

Also a spray can of Mercury (as in boat motors) power tune came in yesterday. I know it gets rid of carbon deposits as I used it on my engines in my guiding days. Last night I sprayed it on a piece of polished steel to see if it has any effect upon the steel. If the answer is no, then I’ll cork the muzzle and fill the bore with it and let it work overnight.
Richard

[JonnyV]

When I fouled out during the Desert International, DD had me go back to the house and scrub my rifle bore hard. I first sent a pot of boiling water down the barrel (remove the wood first and use a funnel) then I hit it with MPro-7 and a bronze brush. It took a fair bit of work but I finally got rid of the pencil lines. Good ol Hoppe’s #9 can do a fair job too. The key is to use a really tight fitting jag and the biggest patch available.

This is when I went to the wiping method outlined on this forum by DanT and I haven’t looked back. No problems since. Two wet patches (meaning WET not just damp), first one pushed out, second one pushed to the muzzle then pulled back to the chamber, then pushed out, then a dry patch followed by a chamber mop to make sure it’s dry. Dry bore and dry chamber.

You can’t over-wipe, but you sure can under-wipe…