Bullet nose - traditional Sharps vs. money bullet

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Re: Bullet nose - traditional Sharps vs. money bullet

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My .45-100 load is 96 gr of 1.5 Swiss and with a .06" fiber wad I compress it to the depth of .175" to seat the PJ .444-540 bullet. That compresses the powder for that load .200".
For the DD of .400" plus a .06" wad without any freebore that powder load would take heavy compression to be able to seat that round. My thumb is not strong enough to seat that round if it was not deep seated .400" in the case.
My .44-100/2.6 I also use a DD-PP but that bullet DD is only .200" long and it has to be in the case with the wad compressed .170" down and it takes a hard push to be able to close the breach.
The last wad stack I seen you list I think it was two wads of around .06" each, not sure about that now plus a paper under the powder.
:D I think anything less than what I use in my .50 with a 700 gr+ bullet and 115 gr plus of 2F is a cream puff load. :D
Hey, I been shooting these BPCR steady since 1954 and I'm still learning. And I still cant shoot them like I want. :lol:

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Re: Bullet nose - traditional Sharps vs. money bullet

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I feel just fine, Kurt I don’t sit at home drinking if that’s what your sideswipe comment is about.

I don’t use a wad stack in the 100. 93.5 grs of Swiss is .180 compression. .062 HDPE wad.

Again you don’t know what you’re talking about.

103.5 grs of olde Eynsford 1.5 is .390 compression .060 veg, .062 HDPE and the felt. Sets the ole bullet snug into the leade with the DDPPE.

There is so much you think you know about me….. that you don’t.

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Re: Bullet nose - traditional Sharps vs. money bullet

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Kenny,
I always say, use what works and do it well.

Y'all have a good day.

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Re: Bullet nose - traditional Sharps vs. money bullet

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I’ve found with the dual diameter bullets that using just a single wad is sufficient and provides good accuracy. So then the powder charge and corresponding compression is dependent on the rifles choice.
My Shiloh 77 in 45-90 is telling me it wants 4-6 grains less powder than my other 90’s . The #1 in 44-77 likes more powder and compression.
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Re: Bullet nose - traditional Sharps vs. money bullet

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Don,

I think the case volume has a play with accuracy potential.
The shorter narrow cases like the .38-55 and my 2 .38-50's compared to the wider and longer .44 BN or the wider .50’s I found have a potential holding more tighter groups using ladder loads from zero compression to full case loads.
When I shot the .45-3-1/4 as well as the .45-2.6 and the .50-2.5 the consistent tighter groups were less from the starting load to the full case than what showed with the .45-70 or the .45-90.
Shooting over a fresh blanket of snow I see a lot of unburned powder on the top of the snow then I see using the .38's or the .40.
The tighter the compression, the larger the case, the more unburned powder I saw on the snow.

Yes I found the DD to shoot well also. It has the advantage of fast gas seal like the grove diameter PP over the bore diameter PP. I see that with the lower ES and the SD, and a full potential of less runout chambering the round over the straight shanked groove diameter PP.

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