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Elk Season

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:28 pm
by jim sproul
Just got the big 50 loaded up with PP 650 grainers over 100 grains of 1 F. Took her out to the range to verify setting with the penny front and the 130 MVA on the rear. I reversed the sight base and filed the penny to center at 100 with the 130 on zero. Set up some milkjugs full of water out to 300yds and had absolutely no problem first shot each time. I probably won't and ethically shouldn't shoot past 200 but it will definitely hold it's own on out. No blow tube or wipe just a 3/16 DGL lube cookie . Bull Elk season starts next Wednesday and hope's are high. Now for the smell of woodsmoke. I will post the results. Life is good!!!

Jim

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:56 pm
by Stephen Borud
Good luck Jim, I hope you pile one up.

Stephen

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:00 am
by Kurt
Jim there is nothing unethical about taking a shot at 300 yards if cover does not allow to get in closer and you have complete confidence in your ability and load to break a good shot.

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:14 am
by jim sproul
Kurt,

The accuracy of the 50-90 is not the probl;em its the rainbow trajectory that even a few yards of difference makes the difference between a clean kill or a followup. I have harvested 7 elk with sharps over the past 10 or 12 years at ranges from125 to 400 yards all one shot kills. The 45-70 collected one nice bull listed in the trophy section and the 50 has downed three more. A 45-90 was used on the others. All in all the big 50 just turns the motor off out right now. This will be the first test for the PP flatnose. If all goes well Wednesday morning will be the test.

Jim

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:40 am
by Kurt
Jim like I said you have to know your rifle, and if in doubt dont pull that hammer back.
I'm a firm believer in a one hunting rifle and shoot it a lot to get to know it.
I also like the .50, but if you want a flat trajectory the .44-90 BN with a 485 grain bullet and 100 grains of 1.5 F KIK is a flat shooter that will do the job. :D

Good luck with your hunt and make a big report with photo's when you finish.

Kurt

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:36 am
by Lazer
Kurt wrote:Jim like I said you have to know your rifle, and if in doubt dont pull that hammer back.
I'm a firm believer in a one hunting rifle and shoot it a lot to get to know it.
I also like the .50, but if you want a flat trajectory the .44-90 BN with a 485 grain bullet and 100 grains of 1.5 F KIK is a flat shooter that will do the job. :D

Good luck with your hunt and make a big report with photo's when you finish.

Kurt
Kurt: I just HAVE to chuckle a bit over you calling your .44-90 a flat shooting rifle! :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: (I think a .220 swift is "flat").

It just shows that all things in shooting are "relative". I know my .45-90 arcs about 125 feet into (er, around) the 1000 yard gong. But just to bring your blood pressure down, I'm sure your rifle is much "flatter shooting" than mine!

Don't get your blood boiling! Just chuckling a bit! How fast does that smoker with 100 grains push your 480 "varmit" bullet? :) :wink:

L (again, not ment to be serious just giggling a bit and no, I'm not into Rick's Grouse this morning)

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:09 am
by Brent
Lazer wrote: It just shows that all things in shooting are "relative". I know my .45-90 arcs about 125 feet into (er, around) the 1000 yard gong.
Ah, not really. Actually, not even close. Half that would be a lot and 1/3 that more accurate.

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:51 am
by Kurt
Arch Lazer I dont have enough blood left in me to get heated up :D :D
What is a 220 swift ??? :D If I remember right the one I had shot a flat trajectory like a boomerang laying on it's side :D

I cant say just how fast the 485 grain will travel with 100 grains of 1.5 KIK I haven't shot it over the chronograph with that bullet. But a 510 grain will be between 1410 to 1420 fps.

Kurt

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:06 pm
by Don McDowell
In the video of Kurt shooting his buff last fall with the 44, you could hear that bullet smackin home even at the 100 yds off and the wind howling...

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:54 pm
by Stephen Borud
The big 50 is very flat shooting when loaded like the original factory rounds were. 473 gr PP bullet and 100 grains of powder.


Stephen

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:18 pm
by mdeland
I'm thinking it probably much more necessary to use a range finder when shooting these BPCRs than smokeless hunting rifles, no?
You guys have gotten me interested in making my # 5 roller into a moose rifle and seeing as they are usually shot at less than a 100 yards I wouldn't need anything other than an open front sight and a ghost ring peep. Already have a 45-70 reamer and government bullet mold.
I'm really liking the idea of making a handy, easy to carry, potent moose shooter with out a scope to carry around.
I'll carry my heavy revolver for any back up I may need. MD

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:54 pm
by Bad Bill
A RB is a nice light rifle for hunting; I use a .50. Agree with Kurt on the 300yds - If one can hit milk-cartons offhand at that range. I really don't like range-finders so if that is what it takes shoot nothing over 100yds. Good luck to all you moose hunters. Maybe you could take a pack of cubscouts with you. They'd love the adventure and each could carry 20lbs to help you pack him back!

Re: Elk Season

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:44 am
by mdeland
I think I'll just take my son or daughters Bill, I ain't man enough to handle a troop of Boy Scouts on a hunting trip. He's a big strapping lad that could pack a hundred pound hind quarter if he had to. Actually my third daughter could probably handle 75 or so. She is really tough and loves to hike, camp and raft. MD