Bullet molds...any opinions?

fingers · Post by **fingers** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 7:34 pm

I'm looking for a bullet with wider grease grooves. Any of you lads have any suggestions on this? Going to take the plunge and get all set up to cast my own. The mold...hmmm. I understand that Paul Jones is the best there is and his 540grn creedmoor seems to be prefered. NEI has one that that is called the Paul Jones Creedmore and of course you have the Lyman Postel. What is the words of wisdom on these. Which one might have the most lube area?

Thanks for the advice. I'm still big on the learning curve here.

I appologise to those who thought I was harsh in my reply on the Pedersoli issue. If I had the money, Shiloh would be my first choice. In time, I might trade up but for now????

Mr. Al, I appologise to you specifically about the Pedersoli comment conserning what those Shilohs run. I think we missinterpreted each other. I was currious as to the rifleing depth of a Shiloh.

Thanks again for all the advise I've recieved here on this site.

arnie · Post by **arnie** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:40 pm

The Paul Jones Creedmoor carries all the lube you need .If you want more try finding one of the lyman moulds designed by Paul Mathews with the nose pour 45 bullet .It holds allot of lube .Paul Jones has this design also if you look at his flat nose designs .Arnie

fingers · Post by **fingers** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:06 pm

I think I've settled on the Paul Jones mold. I want to eliminate that question from the mix. Any comments...is NEI just as good? I'd like to be able to save a couple bucks.

Thanks for you responce

KHR · Post by **KHR** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:31 pm

Fingers,
I'm in the same Petersoli situation, got a great price on the Billy Dixon ($900) before I had heard about the Shiloh. Boy I really want one! but which one is really hard to decide! Anyway I've found the Petersoli to be a great learning gun, am occasionally getting 1.5 moa groups with it. I've been using the lyman gov 520 grain. Once I go as far as I can on the lyman am going to get the Paul Jones. If you can find a good deal on the lyman, it might be a good second choice. (It is a standard of MLV, according to his buff book). I load it with ww brass, 61.5g (weight) Swiss 1.5, compression just the thickness of a walters wad (.030) all grease grooves covered.

keith

Ken Hartlein · Post by **Ken Hartlein** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:25 pm

GAR reloading supplies has about the best price on Lyman molds that I've found, they have a web site, I think it's www.garreloading.com

fingers · Post by **fingers** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:03 pm

What are you sizing your bullets to? 1.2moa...jeeze I wish I was doing that good. What is your load? Case, powder, compression ect. 1.2 at what range? I was told that these bullets don't settle out until you get out to at least 200yrd. Have you seen that?

I just ordered me some stuff to make my own bullets. I've shooting some Postels made from an old Lyman mold...(they guy told me it was made in the late 1800) but his aloy mix is questionable and the first ones I shot were .460. I sized them down to .458 and they are better.

I got some lead that is about the same hardness as 30:1 and I ordered a mold from NEI that is the Paul Jones Creedmoor. I was going to buy a Paul Jones mold but $150 vs $80. I thought I would give the NEI a try.

My best group so far is a Liberty Postel from Liberty bullets here in Portland. They were lubed with SPG and sized to .458. The group was 2.5 inches max spread at 100yds. I haven't been able to do it again though. I've only been shooting this thing this winter so I'm still learning. I think I've got about 3lbs of powder down the tube.

I can shoot smokeless load with jacketed bullets to 1.5inch on a good day so I think I should be able to do at least that good with black when I figgure it out. I didn't think it would take so long to figgure it out. Fun playing with it though.

Thanks for the input fellas. I guess I'll go load some up and try the latest things I've learned.

rk4570 · Post by **rk4570** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:20 pm

Hello Fingers...If you havn`t been out to the Tri County Gun Clun on the 3rd Sun of each month, give it a try! They hold a very informal BPCRS match at 200 yards on paper targets and everyone is ready to help, talk over rifles, loads ect........See You There!! rk 4570

Outrider · Post by **Outrider** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 7:14 pm

Gentlemen,
I also have my eye on a P. Jones #45001. Do any of you have any experience with the bullets from his mould #45012 or #45013 (pointed bullets)?

fingers · Post by **fingers** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:10 am

Thanks for the invite. I have a buddy at work that shoots at your event. When I get a load worked out I plan on stopping buy. Randy Johnson is the guys name. He's taken me out there a couple times to play around.

At your shoot do you guys leave the gate open or do you have to be escorted in?

Thanks again

rk4570 · Post by **rk4570** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:14 pm

Fingers, If you know Randy have him bring you along with him or you can wait at the gate for someone to come in. Randy is a very good shooter and always scores at the top of the pack, You would do well with him as an instructor!! rk4570....Richard Kennedy....PS See you next month.

AL Rittenhouse · Post by **AL Rittenhouse** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:08 pm

Fingers
NEI moulds suck and it only cost just a little more to go first class. Just my .02 worth. Al

fingers · Post by **fingers** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 7:28 pm

Al what sucks about NEI dies? I thought they were pretty good. They are about half the cost of P. Jones so that is quite a bit for a poor fella like me.

Thanks for the help folks.

AL Rittenhouse · Post by **AL Rittenhouse** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:24 pm

Fingers
I ordered 3 moulds from them 2 cast iron and a friend ordered the alum. mould. The cast iron are made using rcbs mould blocks and if you happen to get a batch of blocks that they got heavy handed with the vents they make your bullets look like they have spikes on them. I have better things to do than clean spikes off bullets after I have just finished casting for about 2hrs. The alum. mould never did cast worth a darn. I'm no pro caster but I do think that I cast a pretty good bullet. I can keep them within a grain without to much trouble with the Paul Jones. I just feel that if you can afford the Cadillac of guns meaning a Shiloh you can afford the gas to make her go. Al

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:29 pm

Guy's,

This mould thing is one of those deals of spend it right or spend it again. If you are in the market for a mould you will be doing yourself a huge favor of biting the bullet and giving Paul Jones a call and just go ahead and order the best. Pauls moulds are without question in my opiniomn the best money can buy. The NEI is kinda a joke for a serious target shooter and there is no way to compare a Jones mould with ANY factory mould no way. Paul Jones also will make the Greese Grooves any size you want, these are custom moulds you get to have it your way.

Gunny

KHR · Post by **KHR** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:52 pm

Fingers,

I'm also saving up for the paul jones mould. I've been using the 454125 lyman and for a commercial mold it is pretty good. also have a rapine for 44-40 and it looks like an ok mold. I load it on ww brass, (30-1 alloy) 61.5 g (weight) of swiss 1.5, compress only as much as a .030 wad. spg lube. with blowtubing it shoots good. but havent shot a 1.5 moa in awhile, the conditions have to be really great, ie lighting, wind etc and I have to see well. at times I wish I had a scope to reduce shooter error when load developing.
Next up is to try using a chrony to find out the statistics on the loads, boy this vodoo is fun!

keith

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