Axtell Sights
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How do the Axtell tang sights compare to say...MVA???
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45 - 70 #1 Sporter, 30 inch heavy octagon with MVA mid range soule and MVA spirit level sights
45-70 Hartford Model, 30 inch heavy octagon with Axtell Hartford Transition and MVA combination sights [the hunter!!]
Guns:
45 - 70 #1 Sporter, 30 inch heavy octagon with MVA mid range soule and MVA spirit level sights
45-70 Hartford Model, 30 inch heavy octagon with Axtell Hartford Transition and MVA combination sights [the hunter!!]
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IMHO quality wise they are right there among the best. If there is a problem with the Axtell sight it is in reading the scale on the sights for precision adjustment/repeatibility. The Soule style offers a finer adjustment. Again only my opinion. The Axtell sight is period correct for the Sharps. If I remember correctly the Soule sight was not made until around 1890 or so. Parley
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I was going to post a question along the same lines tonight, but specifically comparing the Axtell vernier sight with the MVA "Sharps style tang sight" that looks period-correct (the 107, 108, and 130 tang sights in the Shiloh catalog). It seems like on the MVA something was changed to improve sight function over the original but I don't know if that's true or what was changed.
Anyone have experience using both? Looks like Axtell version is a couple of bucks less expensive.
Trey
Anyone have experience using both? Looks like Axtell version is a couple of bucks less expensive.
Trey
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Thanks Parley. I have an Axtell on the way. Interested in seein' how it compares, I may swap it out with my Kelley on the No. 1 since all I use it for is mid-range anyway and either sell the Kelley or keep it as a backup. I always wanted to try one of the more period style sights. I think the eye cup will swap with an MVA Hadley...right?
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Guns:
45 - 70 #1 Sporter, 30 inch heavy octagon with MVA mid range soule and MVA spirit level sights
45-70 Hartford Model, 30 inch heavy octagon with Axtell Hartford Transition and MVA combination sights [the hunter!!]
Guns:
45 - 70 #1 Sporter, 30 inch heavy octagon with MVA mid range soule and MVA spirit level sights
45-70 Hartford Model, 30 inch heavy octagon with Axtell Hartford Transition and MVA combination sights [the hunter!!]
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Axtell sights are probably the most authentic sights for a Sharps rifle. From past threads on this board it has been stated that Axtell sights were on the Quigley rifle used in the movie.
I use the mid range sight. It is very precise and easy to adjust. I have also purchsed their Winchester '86 front sight for my new Winchester '86 lightweight.
I use the mid range sight. It is very precise and easy to adjust. I have also purchsed their Winchester '86 front sight for my new Winchester '86 lightweight.
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Thanks Friends!
Biowa: I'll check the website out for their 1886 sights too. I didn't think about that! Thanks for the heads up.
Biowa: I'll check the website out for their 1886 sights too. I didn't think about that! Thanks for the heads up.
Shiloh #1!
Guns:
45 - 70 #1 Sporter, 30 inch heavy octagon with MVA mid range soule and MVA spirit level sights
45-70 Hartford Model, 30 inch heavy octagon with Axtell Hartford Transition and MVA combination sights [the hunter!!]
Guns:
45 - 70 #1 Sporter, 30 inch heavy octagon with MVA mid range soule and MVA spirit level sights
45-70 Hartford Model, 30 inch heavy octagon with Axtell Hartford Transition and MVA combination sights [the hunter!!]
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nohorse:
I have one of the "new" "86's made by Winchester with the safety on the tang. This contraption makes it very difficult to mount a tang sight. Fortunately, an old company in the sight business, Marbles, in Gladstone, Michigan, (good old U.P.) makes a tang sight that will fit, and still enable you to use the safety.
This is not the precise, vernior adjustable target sight that we have on our best sharps rifles, but it is surprisingly good for a hunting carbine like the '86. I'm anxious to try it out with the new Axtell globe sight on front.
I have one of the "new" "86's made by Winchester with the safety on the tang. This contraption makes it very difficult to mount a tang sight. Fortunately, an old company in the sight business, Marbles, in Gladstone, Michigan, (good old U.P.) makes a tang sight that will fit, and still enable you to use the safety.
This is not the precise, vernior adjustable target sight that we have on our best sharps rifles, but it is surprisingly good for a hunting carbine like the '86. I'm anxious to try it out with the new Axtell globe sight on front.
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MVA eye cups will work ok on the Axtel, but tell them as it is a change from the MVA sight. Mine works just fine. They are good folks to deal with at Axtel and MVA.
Dave
MVA eye cups will work ok on the Axtel, but tell them as it is a change from the MVA sight. Mine works just fine. They are good folks to deal with at Axtel and MVA.
Dave
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nohorse,
MVA eye cups will work ok on the Axtel, but tell them as it is a change from the MVA sight. Mine works just fine. They are good folks to deal with at Axtel and MVA.
Dave
MVA eye cups will work ok on the Axtel, but tell them as it is a change from the MVA sight. Mine works just fine. They are good folks to deal with at Axtel and MVA.
Dave
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8iowa: I have one too. A limited edition rfile with the tang safety. LMK how yours works out. Maybe I can adapt the Kelley soule to the '86?? Hmmmmm....Naaawwww.....
Thanks for the comments!
Thanks for the comments!
Shiloh #1!
Guns:
45 - 70 #1 Sporter, 30 inch heavy octagon with MVA mid range soule and MVA spirit level sights
45-70 Hartford Model, 30 inch heavy octagon with Axtell Hartford Transition and MVA combination sights [the hunter!!]
Guns:
45 - 70 #1 Sporter, 30 inch heavy octagon with MVA mid range soule and MVA spirit level sights
45-70 Hartford Model, 30 inch heavy octagon with Axtell Hartford Transition and MVA combination sights [the hunter!!]
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Could some one please give me the web address for Axtel? I have a # 3 Sporter that I want to put a long range tang site on. I've really been leaning toward the MVA's but would like to look at the Axtel before making any final choice.
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Lee Stone Thankyou for that web address to Axtel. I wish I could see both the MVA and the Axtel sights side by side in real life. In the pictures on their web sites they both look good, although the Axtel looks a little more authentic to me. It's sure hard to decide whitch way to go, there's been good comments to both MVA and Axtel in prior posts. Now if I had to pick between the Axtel rifles they have pictured on their web page and a Shiloh rifle, that wouldn't be so hard for me. I wouldn't give up my Shiloh # 3 sporter for one of their rifles.
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Well, I don't know if the Soule design was used on Sharps by any shooters back then, but it was developed in the 1800's, so it is period correct.
I personally just happen to prefer the Soule, especially MVA's Long Range Buffalo Soule with the extra windage. But that is a personal preference.
I personally just happen to prefer the Soule, especially MVA's Long Range Buffalo Soule with the extra windage. But that is a personal preference.
Lee Stone