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Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:50 pm
by Kurt
The .44-77 brass is available if your will willing to pay the price https://www.rccbrass.com/product/44-77-sharps-necked/

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:57 pm
by Kurt

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:28 am
by sass2924

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:33 am
by Kurt
I never seen Bertram brass in the .44-77 caliber listed. When I got my .44-2-5/8 BN Bell 3-1/4" .44 basic was still available and Huntington offered their HDS brass, I think it was Bell with the HDS head stamp, but the rim thickness was as thick as .083" on some and I needed to thin it to .078" to fit my Shiloh this took the head stamp off on some of the cases but it made it good for using pistol primers for a proper fit and the primer pockets could be deepened again for rifle primers. The heads were thick enough so this was no problem.
What the links above are using for cases I don't have a clue, but I have a feeling it could be Jamison or .348 Win. If I would order some of that ammo I would ask what the rim thickness is and I would stay away from anything less than .078" if you have a Shiloh.

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:44 pm
by pacecars
I emailed them to see what it is formed from and rim thickness

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:00 pm
by pacecars
Thanks to a member I will soon have a .44-77 Shiloh that would have been right at home on the Buffalo hunting grounds in the 1870s

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:25 pm
by sass2924
pacecars wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:00 pm Thanks to a member I will soon have a .44-77 Shiloh that would have been right at home on the Buffalo hunting grounds in the 1870s
How is it configured?

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:03 pm
by pacecars
Military stock, 32 inch #1 1/2 barrel w/Hartford collar, pewter friend, buckhorn rear, Vernier tang with globe front and also sling eyes

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 8:04 pm
by Dan O
Brent & Don

Starline has 50-90 = 50 2 1/2 and 348 brass in stock. Both are pricey but available.

Dan

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 8:09 pm
by BFD
Then it is a green light, if ever there was. Buy the brass immediately.

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:09 pm
by SFogler
I have used this in my Shiloh 44-77, fits my original Rolling Block 44S, and it works in a friends original 43 Spanish Rolling Block.
All three fire form differently from the original shape but no problem with the rim thickness in any of them.

https://www.buffaloarms.com/44-77-sharp ... 477sbn-076

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:03 pm
by pacecars
Thanks! They are back in stock so I ordered 100 more

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 6:59 pm
by Yellowhouse
FWIW Jamison 43 Spanish rims are way too thick for my 44-77 Shiloh. They work fine in an original Roller.

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:14 pm
by Kurt
What's the base diameter of the .50-110 win brass?

Re: Hartford period Buffalo rifle

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:34 pm
by 77 sharps
Base .543”, rim .602”, rim thickness .067” Starline brass unfired.