Annual Caribou hunt

[Glen Ring]

Man
I will never get to hunt Alaska or Africa so i rely on other's adventures to entertain me. I have killed Whitetail deer, rabbits , squirrels racooms and one wild hog with lead bullets. RedNeck....How about posting a link/ pics to some of your African trophy animals shot with your BP rifle. That would be cool to look at. I can't wait to see pics of Caribou and bear.

[rdnck]

Glenn--I don't know how to post pictures, or I would. I have two dvds of my 45-110 and 45-70 at work in Africa. The best I can do in that regard is refer you to youtube. Look up black powder zebra kill on youtube and you will see me shoot a zebra it 161 yards with a 45-70. I also have a scrapbook full of pictures but don't know how to post them. Several posters on the forum have seen the dvds. Shoot straight, rdnck.

[BFD]

Do you have a youtube of the impala, I think it was, that the PH had to finish for you?

[Glen Ring]

cool...I'll look it all up. what outfit/ranch were you hunting at/with??

[Kurt]

Here is Bills Zebra hunt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqs543qxTHE
He is also a fine blade smith and knows how to use it.

[Kurt]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... ell+videos

[mdeland]

The first shot in his chest at 21 yards just missed his spine on the way out his back. Had I connected with his wiring harness on that shot he would have never made it almost to my pard. The one that killed him at about 5-6 ft as he blew by me for Chris was a God shot that did cut the wiring. I couldn't make that shot again in 200 tries as it was all a blur.

[rdnck]

Mike, you take shots like that with gratitude when you can get them. Just be glad you were shooting that hard cast Keith bullet.

Your comment about black bears killing more people than grizzlies struck a chord with me. When I killed my first bear with my 58 caliber Hawken in Ontario in the mid 1980's, I had been told the same thing by my guide/outfitter. The Canadian authorities would not let us carry a handgun for a back up. I had three friends with me, and we decided to try for an ear shot if possible. Two of us did just that, and it was an immediate, lights out kill in both instances. The other two guys didn't pull the ear shot off, one hitting his bear in the liver, and the other hitting his just behind the lungs with their 54 caliber round ball Hawkens. They both got a dose of religion, as the bears put on a hell of a show. I remember thinking just as I was about to break my shot at the bear's ear from about 40 yards that I might be about to step in something, and I hope my boots don't leak. Fortunately, it was a good shot, and an instant DRT. The bear never moved or twitched. I was carrying a good Bowie knife as a back up. I have always been glad I didn't have to see how well it would work on a bear. Shoot straight, rdnck

[Glen Ring]

Cool shot on the zebra!! Did you eat it ?
Everybody seems to be making knives these days. It's hard to impress me with knife making.
I have had George Engelbretson and Shawn Shropshire as buds.
I have an Engelbretson knife that's well used and Shawn is a forged in fire winner on TV.
Cool shot on the zebra though. I read that Howard Hill preferred feral Donkey over most meat so i figured a zebra would taste the same.

[nlb34]

Still a new guy here, I was catching up on reading and this thread caught my attention. I have a Shiloh in the works that I intend to use for bear hunting. I did get a chance to see Bill's DVDs from Africa; first class shooting and they leave no question that BPCR is equally capable. As with all things in life learning, practice, and experience are key.

Thanks, Brad.

[mdeland]

Well, actually moose are easy to kill with any reasonable chest shot. Bear are different by a wide margin! I remember one small bear I killed after my hunting pard missed twice with a 300 Weatherby,"bear fever"as he usually was a fine rifle shot. I was using 250 grain Sierra's and that bullet came apart in that little bear of maybe 125 lbs. Went in his back and came out his chest in three pieces.
Killed another smallish black up near Talkeetna with the .338 Ruger and 275 Speer hot cores , It took five through the high chest to drop the little sucker. The tough Speers were punching little bullet size holes clear through him, not opening up at all and as I had not hit spine or shoulder he kept right on going. That bear was ballistic-ally speaking almost invisible to that bullet/load combo.
Watched my pard some years ago on Kodiak kill and eight foot Brown with a 30-06, 180 graIn Nosler partitions at about 2650 fps. He hit twice through the high heart and both lungs not two inches apart and it took probably 15-25 seconds before it was down for the count. I can see it as if it happened yesterday. The first lick knocked the bear flat but was back on it's feet almost instantly biting at the wound. While spinning in circles trying to locate what had hurt em it bumped into a small alder bush which it promptly swatted. I can still see that bush turning through the air root wad and all from the bear paw swat. After a few nore turns the bear stopped just for a moment to try and figure out where the enemy was when Rod hit it another lick ( second shot not 2 inches from the first) down the brown went again but was back on it's feet in a flash. Either shot had killed the bear but it was still back on it's feet trying to kill it's antagonist. We could see the bear weaken after it was back on it's feet the second time. It made a few more turns went down and rolled to the bottom of the hill. We were on the next hill at maybe 175 yard distant. It sure would have been interesting to be on the same hill with that one pissed off brown! We caught the bear with it's pants down,hit it with to killing shots and it very likely would have gotten to us had we been on the same hill. Yeah bear are way different than moose or about anything else!
We didn't have a good tent so we took a roll of visquine and made a shelter after a long day in the field. About dark we set up the tarp in a river bed and went to sleep tired as could be. Woke up the next morning to some fresh Brown bear tracks encircling or shelter. We never heard a thing!

[mdeland]

That flat point on the Lyman Kieth is what does the trick with pistol bullets. It works like a high speed punch press as Elmer put it. I do think LBT actually makes just as good, maybe a bit better bullet as Kieth's but have been so well served with Elmer's offering I have never seen the need to change. Actually the Lyman is a bit different in the grease grooves from Elmer original rendering but works just as well as his and is a bit easier to cast.

[mdeland]

Bob, Clunky Mauser? Are you stupid or just trying to irritate me. Most every bolt gun ever designed since has borrowed at least some of it's design from the 98 Mauser. Most are inferior to one degree or another once you study and understand them thoroughly. Take the famous model 70 Winchester " America's Rifle" is virtually a carbon copy. The coned breech on all model 70's is actually a step backwards and it works because of our modern, very strong case design and material. It actually leaves the case wall unsupported by chamber wall to the middle or end of the case web ahead of the extractor groove where the Mauser 98 supports the case to the extractor groove with chamber wall. There is a feed cone in a Mauser 98 but it's in the receiver, the barrel face is flush and the cartridge goes in up to the extractor groove.
There are three improvements on the Model 70 I do like though. The extractor cut is in the bolt body just under the left lock lug not through the middle of it as on the Mauser. The second is the three position safety and the third (on modern controlled feed Winchesters) is and anti bind lip under the right feed rail.
A heat treated well built Mauser 98 is not second fiddle to any modern bolt gun!

[mdeland]

Well, better get to bed guys, 4 AM will be here quickly and still need to load the gear and be on the road by 6 AM . 450 miles to the put in but oh such a pretty ride! God willing (and I believe he is) we will have a safe and successful trip. Need to remember to get all the sinew I can if successful for the bows I hope to make this winter for daughter and grand daughter who are both into traditional archery.

[mdeland]

Killing some time this AM while I wait for my son-in-law to come. I have seen a few pictures of guys(very few) who successfully defended themselves against a bear with a knife and they were all horribly disfigured looking like they had been put back together with zippers. Most are killed in the try but it beats just letting them chew on you. I'm told a black you want to fight and a brown play dead. Well got to go heard a car door shut!