"Hot Rodding BP Cartridges"

Rickd · Post by **Rickd** » Sun May 30, 2004 7:33 am

Bruiser. Your costs at those prices are fairly close. I believe there are some getting Goex a little cheaper. Maybe not. There are 7000 grains in a pound. Using your Hepburn loads for Swiss (63 gr) and Goex (71 gr) stated above, you are able to load 111 rounds with a pound of Swiss at $15.00 a pound, or $.135 per round. The Goex, you will be loading 98 rounds per pound with Goex at $12.00 a pound, your cost will be around $ .122 per round. So you're looking at Swiss costing just over a penny or so per round more than Goex...at those prices. Good shootin!

Rickd · Post by **Rickd** » Sun May 30, 2004 7:55 am

Bruiser. You might want to check out "Powder Inc." if you're interested in GOEX. Their price is a lot lower than the $12 you quoted. Their cost for 25 lbs. of 2F (or any other grade) delivered .. is roughly $240.00 or $9.60 per pound. At 71 grains per round, that gives you a cost of $.098 per cartridge loaded, vs. $.135 for Swiss. That puts the Swiss at $.037 more per round, or 38% more expensive than Goex. I just bought a case of Swiss and it was $15.95 per pound, delivered. So that's more expensive than your quoted price. Enough on that subject .. I'm just waiting for my rifle to be delivered..hopefully in the next month. Going to cast some more PJ bullets. Good shootin.

Ken Hartlein · Post by **Ken Hartlein** » Sun May 30, 2004 8:00 am

Rickd, where did you get the swiss for $15.95 per pound delivered?? Do they sell in 10lb and 5lb lots??? Thanks.

Rickd · Post by **Rickd** » Sun May 30, 2004 9:47 am

Ken. The Maine Powder House. I believe they only ship 25 pound lots. Nice people. www.mainepowderhouse.com check it out.

Clive Taylor · Post by **Clive Taylor** » Sun May 30, 2004 11:38 am

$15 a pound!!! I wish!! Over here, some 4000 miles closer to the manufacturer, Swiss costs the equivalent of $27 a pound - and that's from the importer..... Some thieving retailers want nearly $40 a pound!

Clive

Tasmanian Rebel · Post by **Tasmanian Rebel** » Sun May 30, 2004 1:11 pm

Bruser, I just checked my invoice from Powder, Inc dated 5/12/04. I got 25 lbs of 1F(Goex) to try in my new 45-110 and paid 8.15$ per can. Freight was 34.00$. Clive, if I had to pay that I think I would consider MANUFACTORING black powder! Wow, we don't know how lucky we are.

A.Bruiser · Post by **A.Bruiser** » Sun May 30, 2004 3:22 pm

Seems as if the subject has gotten a little way from what this subject line started as, "Hot Rodding " Or so it seems. So what would be hot rodding these rifles?

I'd like to read a little more on bullets and how they've changed.

No one has mentioned wads, so whats up there?

A.Bruiser

Josh A. · Post by **Josh A.** » Sun May 30, 2004 4:12 pm

Tas, you are right. I have probably got as much in moulds as I do in one of my Shilohs. I have come to the conclusion that the diameter of the bore riding section of the bullet in relation to the bore is the single biggest indicator of the accuracy of a well-stabilized bullet. The Jones bullet that I shoot in my hunting Shiloh is as well matched to the bore as I ever thought possible. It turned what I figure was a consistent 2 moa rifle into one that will flirt with 1 moa depending on how well I can hold it.

Take care,

Josh

gmartin · Post by **gmartin** » Sun May 30, 2004 5:28 pm

Josh,
FYI, a friend measured the particulars of a Shiloh "Buffalo Slug," a mould that used to be provided with early Farmingdale '63 types. All driving bands of this wadcutter type bullet were .544, the diameter of these rifles according to Kirk. The nose was .529. This so far has been my best shooting bullet from my carbine, but recently aquired others really haven't been shot enough to say it is IT. I believe that is what you meant in your post as to bullet configuration. Us '63 shooters are as searching as you cartridge folks believe me.
Gregg

A.Bruiser · Post by **A.Bruiser** » Sun May 30, 2004 6:51 pm

gmartin,

I thought there was a 63 by line going, you lost or can't read?

A.Bruiser

gmartin · Post by **gmartin** » Sun May 30, 2004 8:20 pm

A. Bruiser,
I believe you meant "you're lost." A bullet is a bullet! Please use your spell check.
Respectfully, Gregg

A.Bruiser · Post by **A.Bruiser** » Sun May 30, 2004 11:19 pm

gmartin,

OK, How about "Bye Line"

No, a bullet isn't just a bullet or you wouldn't have asked about one.

And no, I ment "YOU" And you are lost.

Best regards,

A.Bruiser

gmartin · Post by **gmartin** » Mon May 31, 2004 9:51 am

A. Bruiser,
You are neither the arbitrator nor the moderator of this forum or others. I am guite free to respond to a post as I see fit. If you've nothing of inteliigence to add to my queries add nothing at all. The first rule grade school students are taught concerning bullies is "I" = IGNORE.
Gregg

A.Bruiser · Post by **A.Bruiser** » Mon May 31, 2004 10:24 am

gmartin,

Humm, food for thought,that. Now why would the Shiloh people start an 1863 support/shooting channel if it's not used. I thought we all were talking about hot rodding here and it's controversy in the game of BPCR. Wouldn't it be nice if a subject line was continued on in the manor in which it was intended?, instead of going off contrary to it's subject matter.

My contribution to your inquiry was, that you should stick it were it belongs.

A.Bruiser

P.S. Are we now going to go off on a tangent of name calling and insults?, I hope not. You called me a bully, should I return in kind?

SteveA · Post by **SteveA** » Mon May 31, 2004 11:41 am

Looks like the PARROT is stirring up trouble again!

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