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Suggesting I shoot the Bull are you? Still black though.

Caldwell target cameramaybe what you need it will keep track of the shots

But yeh shooting the bull

I have a Target Camera. Target Camera on the Public Range at Tucson Rifle Club? Uhhh, No.

So, boys and girls, I must confess Rick Moritz was one of the top long range shooters that helped me along when I first started in the game. He and his sidekick Lige Harris were much help and encouragement. Then when Rick pens this article in Black Powder Cartridge News I just had to give it a try.

As I was seated in the designated temporary reading room studying his article I had at the same time a new to me 40-65 rifle (untested) and was contemplating working on load development for it and for a 44-90 Remington Straight, a known and proven drop dead accurate rifle. I will dig into the 40-65 and the accuracy results for the 44-90 shall remain for Eyes Only. (I did send a pic to Rick though.)

Knowing from working with other 40-65's that a Saeco #740 bullet with 55-56 grains "VOLUME" of swiss 1.5 powder was accurate I decided to bracket by weight based on the weight of a new lot of Swiss 1.5 from 55 grains volume. 55 grains Volume weighed 53.5 grains. I used my standard RP case, F150M Primer, 1/25 Card, 1/30 Veg, 1/60 Poly, 14" drop tube, and about 60 thousandths compression. Lyman 55 Powder Measure and trickle to desired weights. (The 55 was dropping 53.8 grains and that is what I dropped into my get on paper sighter loads.)

Off to the 200 yard range. First mistake, shooting at target with black bullseye. Impossible to see and track multiple hits close together. Solution, above the black bull put a long white sheet of paper. Turn the sights up a few minutes and shoot the group on the white paper. Still is a problem if succeeding shots keep going through the previous bullet hole. Fired the test loads, came up three minutes elevation and fired the four remaining sighters and they pretty much clover leafed.

Went home, loaded up 68 40-65 at 53.8 grains, (+ or - one tenth grain on the Lyman 55) rounds and went to silhouette match yesterday. Shooting by myself with 3-4 spotters who began telling me all about their loads and before long were inquiring about my load. Long story short. I have a lot of confidence in this 53.8 grain load going forward.

Look out for that 44-90

Thanks Rick

desert deuce wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:23 pm. First mistake, shooting at target with black bullseye. Impossible to see and track multiple hits close together. Solution, above the black bull put a long white sheet of paper. Turn the sights up a few minutes and shoot the group on the white paper. Still is a problem if succeeding shots keep going through the bullet hole.

That's an old landfill trick. Pays to use tall refrigerators

I imagine the hits on the refrigerator are easy to see all spread out.

But I also realize you can't see the hits if you miss the refrigerator....

Hey Zack, I switched over to these targets and I like them. I'm sure you've seen them.
https://www.shopspg.net/200-yard-10-rin ... 200-10.htm
Dennis

desert deuce wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:01 pm But I also realize you can't see the hits if you miss the refrigerator....

There's a madness to my method!! ( Or is it the other way around.)

A little trick in long range gong shooting that's seldom spoken. Knowing where you are hitting is not that important. Knowing where you are not hitting is most important.
Ask Mike and Wes.

I knew I was in for a long day when Dave called my first sighter 5 targets high. I made a sight adjustment and all the spotters reported they saw no hits anywhere. I blame it on my new bifocals. I may have to move to your landfill for practice.

Yo Dennis, Rick suggested that target also. BUT, I went with what I had on hand and I do have a lot of target material on hand.

Mike Herth, had you considered that perhaps changing spotters is a better choice than picking up bad habits?

desert deuce wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:02 am Mike Herth, had you considered that perhaps changing spotters is a better choice than picking up bad habits?

Are you trying to insinuate his spotter(s) may have been a notch below par ????
I consistently told him where he wasn't hitting !!! ( had no idea where he was hitting)

Very easy to spot with these targets.
https://www.shopspg.net/200-yard-10-rin ... 0-25ct.htm

Gary

[quote]But I also realize you can't see the hits if you miss the refrigerator.... [/quote]

Ain't that what the washing machines on either side are for?