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ian45662 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:27 pm In terms of accuracy, Do you guys think that having the ability to cam or push the groove diameter driving band .030 or so into the lands is something that is normally a good thing?

ian45662 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:27 pm In terms of accuracy, Do you guys think that having the ability to cam or push the groove diameter driving band .030 or so into the lands is something that is normally a good thing?

desert deuce wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:26 pm I hope Gunlaker keeps on shooting those high quality targets and finally convinces himself he has to come south of the border for a match or two.

desert deuce wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:26 pm For silhouette and mid range I highly recommend the procedure outlined by Rick Moritz about ladder loads. You may be pleasantly surprised at the results.

One of the most accurate long range bullets that I have used engraved onto and past the first and second band with thumb pressure. That was one of many moulds that have done that.

Have not had much luck seating the bullet very far off the lands for long range. Makes the round easier to chamber but that is about the only advantage I found so I quit doing it.

Actual breech seating (Where the bullet is pushed hard into the rifling before chambering the charged case) works just fine but is too slow, for me, for present competition time constraints where preventing barrel fouling is paramount. Notice, I used the word prevent, not mitigate.

Using a cartridge seater to push past the first driving band when chambering converted so so accuracy at 800 yards to half min vert at that distance for one particular rifle and load.

I hope Gunlaker keeps on shooting those high quality targets and finally convinces himself he has to come south of the border for a match or two.

ian45662 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:39 am

desert deuce wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:26 pm For silhouette and mid range I highly recommend the procedure outlined by Rick Moritz about ladder loads. You may be pleasantly surprised at the results.

One of the most accurate long range bullets that I have used engraved onto and past the first and second band with thumb pressure. That was one of many moulds that have done that.

Have not had much luck seating the bullet very far off the lands for long range. Makes the round easier to chamber but that is about the only advantage I found so I quit doing it.

Actual breech seating (Where the bullet is pushed hard into the rifling before chambering the charged case) works just fine but is too slow, for me, for present competition time constraints where preventing barrel fouling is paramount. Notice, I used the word prevent, not mitigate.

Using a cartridge seater to push past the first driving band when chambering converted so so accuracy at 800 yards to half min vert at that distance for one particular rifle and load.

I hope Gunlaker keeps on shooting those high quality targets and finally convinces himself he has to come south of the border for a match or two.

This bullet I’m playing with for my 38 has 2 reduced hands. Really it’s for my wife’s rifle but I wanted to play with in mine. It is about .0005 undersized for my groove diameter though. The band that is a little over bore diameter in my wife’s rifle is under bore diameter in my rifle. It slightly engraves with thumb pressure in hers but is very loose in mine and of course doesn’t engrave at all. Maybe I should just go ahead and order a mould made specifically for the dimensions of my rifle.

Lumpy Grits wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:47 am

ian45662 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:39 am

desert deuce wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:26 pm For silhouette and mid range I highly recommend the procedure outlined by Rick Moritz about ladder loads. You may be pleasantly surprised at the results.

One of the most accurate long range bullets that I have used engraved onto and past the first and second band with thumb pressure. That was one of many moulds that have done that.

Have not had much luck seating the bullet very far off the lands for long range. Makes the round easier to chamber but that is about the only advantage I found so I quit doing it.

Actual breech seating (Where the bullet is pushed hard into the rifling before chambering the charged case) works just fine but is too slow, for me, for present competition time constraints where preventing barrel fouling is paramount. Notice, I used the word prevent, not mitigate.

Using a cartridge seater to push past the first driving band when chambering converted so so accuracy at 800 yards to half min vert at that distance for one particular rifle and load.

I hope Gunlaker keeps on shooting those high quality targets and finally convinces himself he has to come south of the border for a match or two.

This bullet I’m playing with for my 38 has 2 reduced hands. Really it’s for my wife’s rifle but I wanted to play with in mine. It is about .0005 undersized for my groove diameter though. The band that is a little over bore diameter in my wife’s rifle is under bore diameter in my rifle. It slightly engraves with thumb pressure in hers but is very loose in mine and of course doesn’t engrave at all. Maybe I should just go ahead and order a mould made specifically for the dimensions of my rifle.

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