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Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:59 am
by mike herth
What is the purpose of the bevel? Eliminates need to slightly flare the case mouth? Any effects on accuracy? Is anyone using BACO’s Postel bullet with beveled base?

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:24 pm
by Woody
No.

Sorry about the extended response.

Woody

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:12 pm
by Luke
The description on Bacos website explains the bevel.

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:00 pm
by semtav
Last time I loaded some paper patched bullets with a real sharp base into brass that was pretty snug, I was thinking a slight bevel or rounded base wouldn't be so bad. I wouldn't tear so many patches.

Not sure what it would do to accuracy.

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:07 pm
by Don McDowell
The Baco bullet shoots well in the 45-70
But the very few I shot in the 45-90 it wasn’t very impressive

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:28 pm
by mike herth
Well, I may have to try that BACO mold and follow Semtav into the dark side…

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:49 pm
by bpcrshooter62
Did i miss something :?: :?: :roll: I thought the dark side was grease groves :?: :?: :roll:

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:52 pm
by Don McDowell
Mike if you’re coming to Alliance or Worland let me know and I can probably bring you a few to try

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:21 pm
by mike herth
Thanks Don, I’d sure like to make Alliance again.

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:23 pm
by Don McDowell
Well it’s coming up pretty fast and I need to take inventory if my bullet shelves and see how much of what I need to cast

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:38 pm
by semtav
bpcrshooter62 wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:49 pm Did i miss something :?: :?: :roll: I thought the dark side was grease groves :?: :?: :roll:
https://www.buffaloarms.com/459-530-grn ... 0p1bb.html

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:59 am
by bpcrshooter62
thanks semtav I got it the bullet in :?: is a grease grove :roll: :D

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:24 am
by bobw
BA says to reduce finning. Magma engineering used bevel base molds with all their casting machines to help the bullets ease from the mold cavities. Man that would be the deal, big ole greaser ever 15 seconds or so with the crank of the handle. Hmmm.

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:57 am
by mike herth
Bob,
Will you be at Alliance?

Re: Beveled base bullets

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:14 pm
by desert deuce
Mike Herth, actually I have two separate more or less one off, at the beginning, moulds on my bench from Jim Brannon at BACO.
One is a copy of the original Ideal 456132 which is bevel based you are inquiring about. The idea was/is to evaluate both for Long Range.

The original Ideal 456132 was apparently created toward the end of the Creedmoor era in the 1800's and available on special order until the 1970's from Lyman. Samples from an original Lyman Mould were sent to BACO to cut a duplicate mould. Why the bevel base is subject to speculation that, on this forum, by consensus finally might conclude that the bullet was intended for later field artillery uses so I won't go there.

The logistic problem continued, seeming indefinitely, due to heavy equipment activity on all ranges at Tucson Rifle Club right up until I left for Phoenix March 22nd. Lamentable situation to say the least.

So, while both have been through initial scrutiny on paper and steel at mid range distances, long range evaluation has not been possible. (The second one off was hugely impressive in ladder load development at 200 yards.)

With that said, ("INITIAL"), results with both are encouraging at the powder burn distances normally available on a silhouette range which, by experience, do not always agree with results from 800 yards and beyond.

At present the probability that both bullets will be shot in both 16 & 18 twist rifles with 1-16 alloy is high.