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New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 8:28 am
by mongo40
I went to drop off an original 1885 Low Wall with Steve Baldwin yesterday. Its a mystery rifle as we can't figure out what the caliber is. Its Marked 22 Long but chamber is bigger, closest we could figure using Cartriges of the World book is 22 Rem Auto, but thats not it either just close to it. Anyway going to have him line it and chamber it for .22 LR. Then we got to talking and I mentioned I'd like to find another Shiloh but in 45-70 and he mentioned that he just happened to have one for sale so he pulled it out and showed it to me, quoted me a price along with a set of his sights mounted on it and couldn't pass it up. So it has a new home now. The only thing I didn't like is I'm more of a traditionalist and like a steel butt plate, this has a rubber one but I'm sure I'll appreciate it when I'm setting on the firing line with it. Not sure of the model, Saddle or Sporter?? Its got a 30" barrel, double set triggers, Schnabel end on the forearm. He also gave me one of his front sight cards to go with it.

Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 9:19 am
by bobw
Saddle rifles have straight grip butt. Looks like a #1 .

Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 10:02 am
by Luke
Yeah, I'd call that a #1. Nice wood on it!

Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 10:08 am
by desert deuce
Well, other than brass there goes a few to many pounds of powder, several pounds of alloy, many flats of primers, etc
Let the fun begin.

Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 1:05 pm
by bobw
mongo40 wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 8:28 am I went to drop off an original 1885 Low Wall with Steve Baldwin yesterday. Its a mystery rifle as we can't figure out what the caliber is. Its Marked 22 Long but chamber is bigger, closest we could figure using Cartriges of the World book is 22 Rem Auto, but thats not it either just close to it. Anyway going to have him line it and chamber it for .22 LR. Then we got to talking and I mentioned I'd like to find another Shiloh but in 45-70 and he mentioned that he just happened to have one for sale so he pulled it out and showed it to me, quoted me a price along with a set of his sights mounted on it and couldn't pass it up. So it has a new home now. The only thing I didn't like is I'm more of a traditionalist and like a steel butt plate, this has a rubber one but I'm sure I'll appreciate it when I'm setting on the firing line with it. Not sure of the model, Saddle or Sporter?? Its got a 30" barrel, double set triggers, Schnabel end on the forearm. He also gave me one of his front sight cards to go with it.
Chris I wouldn't worry to much about the buttplate not to say I don't like steel checkered shotgun butts because I do. Back in the day (150 years ago) most Creedmoor and Long-range models had a hard rubber butt plate. Those guns had to weigh under 10 lbs. I'll tell you something else plastic or steel you can't blame the buttplate it won't effect how it shoots..mb

Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:44 pm
by mongo40
I'm not worried about it as I said I'm sure it will be more comfortable to shoot. Its just an ascetics thing for me, Old style rifles just look better with steel butts! Understanding thats totally my opinion of course!!!
Chris

Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 10:48 am
by Gussy
Make or have a steel one made. It just a flat surface. Not quite like the factory would be, but it cold matchup just fine. Not really a hard job!

Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 11:06 am
by Gussy
Look at the butt plate. Added a little length to fit better but I didn't have to. Never did give it a proper finish and it's showing it's use.
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Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 3:51 pm
by JonnyV
Here's my off-brand rifle with the Pachmyer on it. I get the whole thing with the steel but plates, but I can literally sit behind this rifle all day and not suffer any discomfort. Sure hoping Shiloh can mount one of these on my 45-100 I have on order. If not, I'll just get the rubber pad and grind my own Pachmyer. Especially because the new mold I'm testing is the 600 grainer from BACO....


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Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 8:04 am
by mongo40
Gussy, That sure is some pretty wood on that rifle!!!! and I thought if you were going to have the receiver left in the white then engraving was mandatory!!! :lol:
Chris

Re: New to me Shiloh 45-70

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 10:41 am
by Gussy
I would like some scratching on it! But, it's French gray finish and to late. I actually bought it used so no option.