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parkergunz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:56 am My 1877 weighs an even 12 pounds. It has a 32 in round barrel, steel buttplate and MVA base with XLR rear sight. It also has a 112 front sight.

Mike

Thanks Mike,

Is that the total weight including sights?

Bob

Yes ..... everything that I listed.

Thank you,
Bob

rkaires wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:35 am

Kirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:07 am Good morning,
There is only one round profile for the 77, it's heavier than a business round, not as much taper.
As far as the weight of a heavy half 32" barrel, I've not weighed one but it should be somewhere around 10.5 to 11 lbs.

Thank you Kirk!

That's the info I needed. I want to make sure it makes the 12lb 2oz limit for the creedmoor matches in Oak Ridge. I should be able to have a mercury reducer added as well.

Bob

You may know this already but the 77 won’t qualify for the “original style” class. If you want to shoot a sharps it will have to be an 1874. There will be an “open class” where you will be able to use the 77.

ian45662 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:21 pm

rkaires wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:35 am

Kirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:07 am Good morning,
There is only one round profile for the 77, it's heavier than a business round, not as much taper.
As far as the weight of a heavy half 32" barrel, I've not weighed one but it should be somewhere around 10.5 to 11 lbs.

Thank you Kirk!

That's the info I needed. I want to make sure it makes the 12lb 2oz limit for the creedmoor matches in Oak Ridge. I should be able to have a mercury reducer added as well.

Bob

You may know this already but the 77 won’t qualify for the “original style” class. If you want to shoot a sharps it will have to be an 1874. There will be an “open class” where you will be able to use the 77.

Thank you for the heads up.

I didn't see that mentioned in the match bulletin.

Bob

Ian,

I've never shot in those matches, but don't see a reason the 1877 isn't legal. It's from the period, and my understanding is that it was created to allow a heavier barrel in the Creedmoor-type matches than the 1874. The match excerpt doesn't mention any reason I can see why it should not be legal.

Clarence

Clarence,
I can’t use my original #7 Ballard long range for the anniversary match. That rifle was introduced in 1975…
Actually, the only ones that were were in the original match were the ‘74 Sharps Creedmoor and the Remington Creedmoor….
I have one of the Original Sharps Creedmoor rifles that was issued to the American Team by John P. Moore’s Sons, Gun and sporting good dealers of New York City, in April 1874. C54096, the first Creedmoor to leave the factory was C54092…
I will most likely use that rifle for the match.
Tom Klinger

My understanding is that only rifles that were used in the original match will be allowed. For sharps that would be the model 1874. He may allow the 77 I’m not sure. I asked and have not gotten a good answer yet. For sure the 77 cAn be used for the “open class” but I don’t think they will be allowed for the “original class”
Hopefully I can get an answer soon.

Out of curiosity what's allowed in open class? I searched the Creedmoor 150 group page and couldn't find anything on using a 77 or what's allowed in open class. I do have a 74 Hartford in 50-90. Not ideal.

Thanks,
Bob

Tom,

Interesting; the excerpt of the rules isn't clear on that requirement.

Fortunately, you're well-equipped with that original!

Clarence

rkaires wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:16 am Out of curiosity what's allowed in open class? I searched the Creedmoor 150 group page and couldn't find anything on using a 77 or what's allowed in open class. I do have a 74 Hartford in 50-90. Not ideal.

Thanks,
Bob

Pretty much anything that is allowed for BPCR Silhouette. If someone wants to post a flier on this thread send me your e mail and I will send what I have

Pm sent.

Thanks

E mail is on its way.