Howdy everyone,
My question regards the 45-110 & 50-90 in terms of strengths and weaknesses. Which is the better all-around cartridge from the standpoint of accuracy. I would like an honest oppinion before I order my Sharps rifle.
Thanks,
Will
45-110 vs. 50-90
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I have got a 50-90 and have had no problems making accurate loads for it. I shoot the PJ 650 gr. Creedmoor @30:1 and 91.5 grains of swiss 1.5F. The reason for the 91.5 grains is to give me about a 1/16" powder compression. It kicks a bit but shoots real good.
I don't have a .45 but have read many post from fellers that have 45-110 and 45-120 trying to find a good load. From what I've read nobody seems to have much trouble with the 45-70 or 45-90.
It makes me wonder if maybe we can only burn around 90 grains in these 32" to 34"barrels. Maybe 110 grains don't give a complete burn and an incomplete burn may not be consistent and giving them accuracy problems.
I don't have a .45 but have read many post from fellers that have 45-110 and 45-120 trying to find a good load. From what I've read nobody seems to have much trouble with the 45-70 or 45-90.
It makes me wonder if maybe we can only burn around 90 grains in these 32" to 34"barrels. Maybe 110 grains don't give a complete burn and an incomplete burn may not be consistent and giving them accuracy problems.
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Will I dont have a 110 so I cant speek for it. But I have shot one and seen good accuracy from them. I did have a 3-1/4 that shot very good once I found a bullet that worked in the large free bore barrel.
But as far as the .50-90 I have it is just as good as any of my other calibers. And it seems to be a little more forgiving with a load then my smaller calibers (.40-.45). I use two bullets a 685 grain HP and a 718 +or - depending what alloy I use. I loaded it from 98 to 110 grains of 1F and it is pretty consistant. I would recument you putting a recoil buffer in the stock, it makes it like a healthy .45-90 load.
Kurt
But as far as the .50-90 I have it is just as good as any of my other calibers. And it seems to be a little more forgiving with a load then my smaller calibers (.40-.45). I use two bullets a 685 grain HP and a 718 +or - depending what alloy I use. I loaded it from 98 to 110 grains of 1F and it is pretty consistant. I would recument you putting a recoil buffer in the stock, it makes it like a healthy .45-90 load.
Kurt
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I would opt for the .45- 2 7/8” --AKA .45-110.
As far as accuracy, I haven’t seen .50’s of any chambering in the winners’ circle. May have happened, but I can’t recall seeing any .50’s posted in the match results. Most of the winners & shooters utilize one of the of the various .45 & .40 chamberings & there must be a reason for this--besides 'copy-cats.'
If you want information about the .45-2 7/8“, there are two prolific posters on this boards--rdnck & Kenny Wasserburger-- who are probably the most experienced .45-2 7/8” shooters around.
I’d advise you to do a search for their posts & read what they say ‘bout this caliber. It would also pay you to do a search of the calibers that you are querying & see what has been posted.
I have a Sharps .45-2.4” (AKA .45-90) & a .45-110. Both of these rifles shoot w/ in my standard of accuracy--1.5-2 MOA. W/ my eye sight & iron sights, that is all I expect. But I think w/ more careful load development, both of these will shoot better.
As w/ any caliber, careful load preparation & experimentation is the key. Messers. Wasserburger & rdnck--as well as others--proved that the bigger .45s will shoot & shoot very well indeed....
As far as accuracy, I haven’t seen .50’s of any chambering in the winners’ circle. May have happened, but I can’t recall seeing any .50’s posted in the match results. Most of the winners & shooters utilize one of the of the various .45 & .40 chamberings & there must be a reason for this--besides 'copy-cats.'
If you want information about the .45-2 7/8“, there are two prolific posters on this boards--rdnck & Kenny Wasserburger-- who are probably the most experienced .45-2 7/8” shooters around.
I’d advise you to do a search for their posts & read what they say ‘bout this caliber. It would also pay you to do a search of the calibers that you are querying & see what has been posted.
I have a Sharps .45-2.4” (AKA .45-90) & a .45-110. Both of these rifles shoot w/ in my standard of accuracy--1.5-2 MOA. W/ my eye sight & iron sights, that is all I expect. But I think w/ more careful load development, both of these will shoot better.
As w/ any caliber, careful load preparation & experimentation is the key. Messers. Wasserburger & rdnck--as well as others--proved that the bigger .45s will shoot & shoot very well indeed....
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In regards to the 45-2 7/8 (45-110) vs. the 50-2 1/2 (50-90), a little historical perspective might shed some light on your choice. The Big Fifty was only offered for a couple of years by the original Sharps company and was replaced by the better performing 45 straight walled cartridges. It was the 45-2 7/8 inch that was considered the archetypal buffalo gun and wreaked such havoc on the herds at the end of the 1870’s. I have owned Shilohs in both 45-2 7/8 and 50-2 1/2 and found the 45 to be the more accurate. I have also since sold both as I couldn’t see the 2 1/2 inch 50 offered noticeable difference over the 50-70 Gov’t and the 45 just plain kicked so much I got tired of shooting it. I have a 45-2.4 inch now and much prefer the lessened recoil.
Hope this helps
In regards to the 45-2 7/8 (45-110) vs. the 50-2 1/2 (50-90), a little historical perspective might shed some light on your choice. The Big Fifty was only offered for a couple of years by the original Sharps company and was replaced by the better performing 45 straight walled cartridges. It was the 45-2 7/8 inch that was considered the archetypal buffalo gun and wreaked such havoc on the herds at the end of the 1870’s. I have owned Shilohs in both 45-2 7/8 and 50-2 1/2 and found the 45 to be the more accurate. I have also since sold both as I couldn’t see the 2 1/2 inch 50 offered noticeable difference over the 50-70 Gov’t and the 45 just plain kicked so much I got tired of shooting it. I have a 45-2.4 inch now and much prefer the lessened recoil.
Hope this helps
Randy W